(05-17-2016, 12:59 AM)izzy Wrote: So...Oh go ahead and click, you know you want to!!!
I did. I couldn't resist!
(05-17-2016, 12:59 AM)izzy Wrote: given your first quote - how? They would have to retool the character. Nick is not a leader, he may be a charismatic figure that gets people to follow him, but that is actually different than being a leader. For one, as you pointed out he makes extremely poor decisions, in many ways it goes back to my comments about his seeming arrested adolescent development. rememebr the court holders form hihg school, with their little troupe f hanger-ons, msot of the folks I know like that washed out in the adult world. tha ti swhat NIck sor tof remineds me of.
When you look at it, Rosalee may view him a bit maternally, or at least as a big sister-little brother relationship. Monroe, may be his friend, but in many ways Monroe plays a wise elder to an impertinent youth. I guess what I am saying is after 5 seasons, Nick character does not seem to have matured much and I don't see how he grows in leadership, given the fact he is, well, Nick. Everyone's favorite brother.
I'm probably one of the few that doesn't find David Giuntoli charismatic. Not trying to be mean here, but I have a really hard time believing Juliette or Adalind could ever fall in love with him. He looks like a very nice guy in real life, but on the screen there's just not a lot there, even after five years.
The only way I could see Nick being retooled is through a major storyline, like a revolution. After that, I'm with you. Punishment is a must for Nick. In my opinion, he needs to atone more than any other character on Grimm. I laughed when I read your example of Warden Norton from the Shawshank Redemption. I actually never considered that kind of redemption for his character.
Right now I am assuming Grimm will only have 13 episodes left at this point, so I don't see a major retooling of Nick.
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Nick gave me a mama’s boy vibe from the beginning, so him relenting to his mother’s commands didn’t surprise me even though he was reluctant to approach Renard. With Adalind, I think Nick’s quick decision to go along with Kelly was colored by his history with Adalind. In his mind Adalind couldn’t possibly be a good mother, and I imagine Nick enjoyed the payback to some degree.
If he had a mama's boy vibe, that at least would have been something. I didn't even get impression from him.
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