(06-19-2020, 12:07 PM)Hexenadler Wrote: I'ts been almost three years, and I'm STILL not over what G&K ultimately did to Juliette. You have to stand back and study her arcs throughout season 4, 5 & 6 just to see how morally reprehensible it really is.I agree that Juliette turned evil and committed unforgivable crimes. The reasons behind her turn was not completely clear, but seemed to be triggered by Nick stepping outside to digest the shock after she woged in front of him, and that she was not allowed to kill his unborn son (or as she saw it, Adalind) at the precinct (destroying her own life in the process). I tend to think this had to do with Juliette handling the transformation badly and turning mentally unstable. But the seek for power did make Renard support ethnic cleansing, so it is possible that her new abilities completely clouded her judgment.
S4: Juliette turns into Hexenbiest. Juliette becomes extremely powerful. Power turns Juliette into an uberbitch. Juliette commits unforgivable crimes and has to be put down like a sick animal.
S5: Juliette is beaten up inside a cell by a creep who hides his blatant sadism behind a mask of practicality. Said beating results in Juliette becoming "Eve," a "stronger woman" who's in "full control" of her emotions, i.e. they won't run rampant to destroy everyone around her. Basically, it took a man to slap a leash on Juliette for her to become a good guy again. Juliette is absolved of all her crimes by adapting identity of Eve. Everybody is (ultimately) okay with this, including the writers working under G&K's reign of amoral incompetence.
S6: "Julieve" is mostly reduced to sniffing around a tunnel for most of the season until she goes on a detour with Nick, in which she blabs a monologue SUPPOSEDLY meant to resolve any lingering conflict, only to rip open old wounds by refusing to face accountability for her crimes for the umpteenth time.
As far as I'm concerned, the REAL continuity came to a halt at the end of TRIAL BY FIRE. The actual story unfolded elsewhere. We'll just never get to see it. Everything we saw on the television took place in an evil alternate timeline conceived by lazy, indifferent hacks who didn't care about the misery and trauma they were inflicting on characters whom the audience had the misfortune of liking.
We started seeing Eve turning more into Juliette at the end of season 5. When Adalind’s powers returned, Eve seemed convinced Adalind would turn on Nick, even saying she might not be completely in control (just like herself back in season 4). Then when Adalind was forced to temporarily stay with BC to get Diana, Eve kept asking if Nick blamed Adalind. She was probably hoping he did. Then, at the start of season 6, after being healed by the stick, we saw even more of the old Juliette - she asked Nick to be careful and searched for his feelings in the presence of the stick. And then of course we had the hotel scene, where she was the only person obsessed by somebody she used to love. Eve shouted to Adalind that she had stolen Nick and had the child that was supposed to be hers. She also admitted to Diana that a stomach hurt when she thought about Nick not being her boyfriend. She did regret betraying Nick, but also understood that there was no turning back.
After getting fired by HW (“only Grimms”), she had limited purpose and nowhere to go. She did serve as bait to get Nick to follow her to the other side, but then lost her powers and was forced to kill herself. It is true that she refused to accept responsibility for her crimes in her monologue, but Nick had sort of forgiven her. In “The Son Also Rises”,sitting by her bedside in the hospital, Nick reflects on his relationship with Juliette, from Marie’s warning to Kelly’s head in the box. The latter would always stay with him, but he consider her an important friend with a shared past. He only seemed annoyed every time she stepped too close to Adalind and Kelly. At the end, Eve seemed happy to see Nick with his new family. You could even say that Eve loved him enough to want the best for Nick even if that meant not being together. To move on, she needed to start over, that is why she kept telling herself, "I'm not Juliette anymore".
G&K created a show that I have enjoyed more than any other. I do not place tags like “morally reprehensible” to a fantasy-show that in based on a cop interacting with witches and werewolves. The characters all changed throughout the series - perhaps with the exceptions of Nick, Monroe and Rosalee. Grimm had some shocking twist and turns, but that made it all more interesting. No one is going to watch the show for moral guidance anyway and it’s not intended for kids.