05-01-2018, 07:22 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-01-2018, 08:01 AM by Henry of green.)
(05-01-2018, 06:05 AM)dicappatore Wrote:(05-01-2018, 05:15 AM)Robyn Wrote: I can’t remember but don’t think Nick was aware that Kenneth was purposely antagonizing Juliette’s emotional state. And because Adalind chose not to disclose that Kenneth was manipulating Juliette for his benefit, it’s reasonable that Nick’s only objective was to salvage his relationship with Juliette while protecting his unborn child. I didn’t see any indication that Nick felt a responsibility to Adalind other than his child’s wellbeing was directly dependent on her wellbeing and he needed her to create the suppression potion. Because to Nick, Juliette’s Hexenbiest was the only detriment to the relationship and his unborn child.
I’m onboard with Adalind not sharing any information that could potentially compromise her and the baby’s safety and getting Diana back. But realistically, Nick might have taken a different approach had Adalind told him about Kenneth’s plan for Juliette and luring his mother to Portland. Because IIRC, Nick assumed Juliette's behavior at the Spice Shop was solely due to the Hexenbiest's influence. And once Juliette refused the suppressant and announced she had embraced her new life, there wasn't anything he could do other than go on the offensive.
I clearly remember Nick was not in-the-know, what Ken had planned. Ken only got to antagonize Juliette just after he posted bail. Nick was probably shocked that she was out on bail when he saw her waltz in the precinct.
My question to you is, how much of Ken's plan was Adalind aware of. He did mention to Adalind he figured out that Nick was the father of her new pregnancy. As I recall, Adalind did comment to Ken, Juliette would never turn against Nick. Once Juliette walked in the police station, the hat was out of the bag about Juliette knowing who got her pregnant.
We are talking about minutes from the time Ken telling her, to the time of her, confronting the two. She showed up right after she got bailed out. The time spent, for her to brew her anger was the time spent for a Uber driver to take her from lock-up to the precinct.
If Adalind knew and had told Nick about Ken's plans with Juliette, it would have been just seconds after Adalind told Nick he was the daddy and only a few minutes before she shows up. Remember, Adalind had known Ken was up to something but not specifics.
Would her knowing and telling Nick had made any differences?
(05-01-2018, 05:47 AM)New Guy Wrote:(04-30-2018, 02:01 PM)Zansy Wrote:Hi Zansy,(04-30-2018, 12:29 PM)Henry of green Wrote: Excellent, post well thought out and I wholeheartedly a agree with everything you stated, it’s pretty clear to me Nick handled the situation in the precint the best he possibly could given the extreme circumstances surrounding the precinct scene. I also agree it is a bit hypocritical calling out Nick merely for protecting a pregnant Adalind, while Juliette slept with Renard a man who has caused them both as much if not more pain than Adalind .Thank you, I'm glad you think it makes sense.
Your post was one of the best ever presented on this Forum. Kudos!
N G
I second those Kudos also. I wonder if (cough) "SOME" might disagree.
Robyn, I agree with the majorty of your post particulary about nick mainly being concernd with the safety of his unborn child and not Adalind herself. Though I think your making a bit of a leap about what Adalind knew, it was never even hinted at that the plan originally was to lure Kelly to town, the original plan was to get Juliette to find out where Kelly was, the only thing Adalind knew was Kenneth was planning on using Juliette in someway to turn her agianst Nick to find Kelly. I agree with you though nick could have asked Adalind about Juliette and Kenneth working together but to say Adalind knew they were luring kelly to Portland is a stretch to say the least.
Script from 4x19
Kenneth-Then this could be the opportunity we've been waiting for.
Adalind-I'm sorry, but I don't see an opportunity anywhere near her.
Kenneth- Juliette knows just about everything about Mr.
Burkhardt, about his mother, and therefore about where the child, your child, might be.
Okay, Adalind- she may have beat up a couple people in a bar, I mean, God knows we've all done that, but there is no way she's going to betray Nick, if that's where you're going.
Kenneth- It's surprising how quickly betrayal becomes a viable option, given the right circumstances.
Which right circumstances? By the way, have you made up your mind about who the father of that one is? Don't strain yourself.
I know it's Mr.
Burkhardt.
As you can see in the above script Robyn, Adalind knows very little about Kenneth’s plans beyond attempting using Juliette to find the child and she even doubts Kenneth will able to turn Juliette agianst Nick.
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