04-16-2018, 09:07 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-16-2018, 09:40 AM by dicappatore.)
(04-16-2018, 06:06 AM)Robyn Wrote:(04-15-2018, 06:40 PM)syscrash Wrote: Here is another point. Nick had Adalind pinned to the ground while she was in full woge. That was when he acted like he was going to kiss her and she bit his lip after un woging. He was not repulsed by Adalinds woge. Even when Nick was proving it was him during the transformation. Nick referred to it as their first kiss. Which is interesting because Nick and Juliette where still together then. So using a lose definition of the subject. Nick was the first to cheat.This is interesting, and more focused on Nick still pretending to his friends that he and Adalind didn’t have a relationship beyond co-parenting, something I hadn’t given much consideration.
But. When Nick referenced the kiss of death, the writers had decided Nick/Adalind was the relationship endgame. So, had they decided instead that Nick/Juliette-Eve was the relationship endgame, would Nick reference it as his and Adalind’s first kiss or as something vile he had to do in order to save Hank? I’m simply analyzing the context in which Nick might consider it a kiss vs. a nauseating task.
IMO, both of you are making some big "dot" connection out of thin air. Again reading more into what occurred, with "hindsight is 20/20" than there was. Would you two have been making these same "connecting dots assumptions" if they did not end up as a couple? Did you predict the N/A arc so early on that for most of us overlooked? I don't think so. The so called kiss was not intended as a romantic interlude.
As I recall, they were fighting one more epic battle of a Grimm vs a Hexenbiest. But what do I know, I am not the expert on Wesen/Grimm relationships. Maybe thats how Grimms and Hex's have sex, they kick each others asses in a cold humid mossy covered outdoor woods environment.
The reference that you two mention, later on when they are both living in the fome, was more of a sarcastic remark on how they both ended up compared how they started up. I guess for some, their deep insight saw the N/A relationship that early on. I am confused, some of the same argue that in that last scene in S6, E13, when Kelly was adding to the Grimm Book that he wasn't referring to Nick as his father.
Adalind was never intended to have become part of the permanent supporting cast and because of it, writers weren't planning or predict where the character arc took them, that early on and i do believe they admitted it, especially when their arc was never intended to go that far.
Take the 1st Star Wars movie and the following one where we see a romantic interest between Luke and Leia. Do you think is Lucas had original planned them to be twins would have them written in such a matter with romantic intent between the two and even them kissing romantically? Maybe it wouldn't be much of a shock after watching Games of Thrones, but I don't think Lucas was targeting a similar audience at that time that GoT current audiences indulges in.
Try this, type in Google "Nick Adalind's first kiss" and see how many hits you get referencing that fight? Better yet, for a special one, try Google for "Nick cheating on Juliette". Se how many more hits you get there. But what does the majority know when we have others the ability to have foreseen what the creative team had intended all along.
Sorry, IMO I have to chalk this one to "hindsight is 20/20" instead of some ingenious extrapolation of "writers intent" or some other ploy of connecting unexpected dots. Let me repeat, I am not the expert on Wesen/Grimm relationships. And we all have the right to express an opinion. I am not questioning the opinion. I am questioning the reasoning on your "dot connection" of pure fantasy aka, Fan Fictions.
Maybe, just maybe, some contributors brains aren't actually connecting dots. Maybe, just maybe, their brains are yelling out dots connected to dashes in a pattern as "... --- ..." or better yet " .... . .-.. .--." and are trying to say something else. Try to connect them in Morse Code, your brain is trying to tell you something else.
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