06-27-2017, 05:06 PM
(06-27-2017, 04:06 PM)dicappatore Wrote:(06-27-2017, 01:17 PM)silver Wrote: I've just started reading through this thread. That's what I think, too. I mean, he hadn't been a Grimm / aware of being one for all that long, so as far as I'm concerned, he had no reason to be 'that' shocked at her turning into a hexenbiest. Why was he that shocked? The true heart of Nick (bad part) instantaneously rejected her. At the time she needed him most. As a partnership for a few years, where did that empathy go to?
It also showed through when a bit later (whenever), he said why did you go to Renard for help instead of him? The old ego problem and Nick had it big time. His concern was for his own wants and needs instead of Juliette's. tsk tsk
Actually silver, Nick asked her about going to others the same time she voge to him for the 1st time.
Scene: Nick takes his gun out and points it at Juliette after seeing her woge.
Nick: You're not Juliette. You're Adalind. What did you do with her?
Juliette: [She retracts] Nick, it's me.
Nick: I don't believe you.
Juliette: Listen, you... you proposed to me on this couch. You had a ring. I said no. You hid it upstairs in the dresser drawer. I found it. Adalind would never know that.
Nick: [He lowers his gun] How did this happen?
Juliette: I don't know. I didn't know what was happening at first. I was really nauseous. I thought I was pregnant. I had headaches. And then it just happened. And it's been happening more and more. It's how I killed the guy from the tribunal. [Flashback of the back of Jonah Riken's head exploding in "Tribunal"] And the Manticore. [Flashback of Juliette killing Jonathon Wilde in "Maréchaussée"] And how I almost just killed Adalind.
Nick: Why didn't you tell me?
Juliette: Because I was scared.
Nick: [He puts his gun away] Look... we're gonna figure this out, and get rid of it.
Juliette: We can't.
Nick: Why not?
Juliette: It's permanent.
Nick: You don't know that.
Juliette: I do. Henrietta told me.
Nick: Who's Henrietta?
Juliette: The Hexenbiest who's been helping me figure this out.
Nick: You've been seeing a Hexenbiest?
Juliette: I had to. I didn't want to hurt you.
Nick: Well, how did you find Henrietta?
Juliette: Sean Renard.
Nick: You told him before you told me?
Juliette: I needed help, Nick. His mom's a Hexenbiest. He's half Zauberbiest.
Nick: You should have told me.
Juliette: [Crying] I was afraid you were gonna kill me.
Nick: Juliette, I would never hurt you. Never. This is all because of me. This is... because I became a Grimm again.
Juliette: Well, we took a chance, you know? We knew that there might be side effects. It's what we wanted.
Nick: Juliette, I am so sorry. [He opens the front door]
Juliette: Nick, where are you going?
Nick: I don't know. [He leaves]
Where is his rejection of her, all he did was walk out, not moving out? if he hadn’t been called out for an investigation a few minutes later he would have come back a lot sooner. He is a cop; the mortgage has to get paid. Meanwhile she quit her job. The next morning, she rejects his explanation of sleeping on the same couch. She had no issues with him sleeping on that same damm couch for days after she came out of the comma.
How about her maturity of not keeping her part of the promise to never keep secrets between each other?
If anyone lacked empathy was Juliette. how many instances He tells her he still loves her. Would never hurt her and add to when he commits to her “It was his turn to learn to understand her”. Whom is all about Who? She is the one to leave the house permentally
I guess after she voge and tells Nick how she killed two Wesen and almost killed Adalind. His proper response should have been,
instead of:
Nick: You're not Juliette. You're Adalind. What did you do with her?
It should have been:
Nick; Oh Yea? You did all that? Get cleaned up, you have blood running down the side of your mouth. The house is a mess. You wanna go out for dinner?
Would that response have sufficed?
Whom is all about Who? She is the one to leave the house permanently, sleeps in the car, moves in with Sean. Begins being promiscuous again, Bar hopping, jail time. Oh yea, she only returns to his house to get some of her stuff and to send the fatal email to Kelly. And never returns the keys she still used to get in the house at the end when she tries to kill him
Come on silver. it's all there.
Yeah. It's all there: YOUR opinions.
And btw, I could get just as much out of your posts if you'd stop printing up half the script. Yikes!
In the end, his own guilt about what happened to Juliette and the way he treated her was justified so, in that respect, he never held anything against her, which is appropriate. It's a story, but it can really help teach the audience stuff - more so IF we don't hold our prejudices too close.
I can be a sarcastic person as well. But it doesn't always pay.
I'm really wondering if you were watching the same Grimm I was.
She had her memories of Nick stolen by whatever spell Adalind used on her. We were even shown how it happened AS it was HAPPENING.
He respected her not knowing him and had no problem sleeping on the couch for however long it might take. From other recent posts of yours, you have an incredible prejudice against Juliette, and I'm wondering why. I don't get that.
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