11-19-2015, 08:03 PM
(11-19-2015, 05:00 PM)izzy Wrote:Hello Izzy,(11-19-2015, 01:36 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hello Izzy,
Indeed your moral opinion totally disagrees with mine. You can have your own opinions, but not your own facts.
As I said,” Prior to the damned sleeping beauty potion, Nick and Juliette had made a commitment and were moving toward marriage.”
Your statement “I must have missed that. Seems to me Juliette said, uh, nope, not now, 'casue dude you have issues. Not exactly moving toward marriage in my book. Sort of like, uh thanks, but no thanks” does not remotely resemble what actually happened in episode 1.16 The Thing with Feathers:
http://www.nbc.com/grimm/episode-guide/s...116/263606
Back at their cabin, Nick admits to Juliette that even though this weekend didn't turn out as planned, he still has one perfect moment he'd like to make. Nick pulls out the engagement ring and asks Juliette to marry him. Juliette is hesitant and eventually says she can't. She loves him deeply and wants to marry him someday, but she knows Nick is still keeping things from her. Juliette understands Aunt Marie's death was hard on Nick, yet until he can let her back in, she's won't say yes. Devastated by Juliette's response, Nick slowly walks away, leaving Juliette to stare at the ring.
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/The_Thing_With_Feathers
Back at home, since Nick did not have time on their weekend getaway, Nick proposes to Juliette. She turns him down. Although she loves him and would like to marry him, she feels like Nick has closed himself off and has been keeping things from her. While a distraught Nick goes to another room, wondering what he will tell her, Juliette opens the box to study the ring.
The script reads:
N - Okay, look, I know that this weekend didn't turn out the way I planned.
And, uh, I think the thing of it is, you kind of have to make your own perfect moments.
So Juliette, will you be my wife?
J - I can't. I love you so much.
And I really, really want to marry you someday.
But I can't right now.
N - Because of what? I'm a cop? Is that
J - It's not because of your job.
It's you.
I feel like you've been keeping things from me.
You've been so closed off.
I know how hard Aunt Marie's death was for you.
But until you can let me back in again I can't say yes.
You said “I must have missed that.” I agree, Izzy you missed that, so I’ll repeat Juliette’s lines. “I love you so much. And I really, really want to marry you someday.”
Note that Juliette found the ring in 1.12. Per NBC recap, “She's putting away some laundry when she stumbles across a big surprise that puts a smile on her face... Nick's hiding an engagement ring in his sock drawer!” Again in 3.17, “As Nick puts away some clothes, he finds the engagement ring he got for Juliette. Juliette sees it and tells him that when the time is right, they know where to find it.” Then in 4.14, “At home, Juliette gets out the engagement ring from Nick's drawer and puts it on. Her hand then woges, and she quickly takes the ring off.” There are no words for a script, but it seems that in 4.14 Juliette decides that due to the hexebiest curse she will never wear the ring. And she didn’t. No living happily ever after for Nick and Juliette.
New Guy
And all of your alleged facts I discard out of hand because they are subject to interpretation and I stand by my assessment.. A little news flash (fact if you will), women are complex creatures. A woman saying no, ad then that she really wants to marry you some day is really saying something very different than the words she spoke.
And yes, she may be delighted to see a ring...temporarily, then all the little doubts creep in.
I suggest you really have no clue, that is my observation based on a lifetime of experience with interactions with the fairer sex.
But feel free to think as you will, I find it entertaining to say the least.
Kindest regards...
My wife and I have been married 38 years. Yes she was the hottest babe in the office building where I worked. I am well aware of the "chemistry" you speak about. Other guys asked if they could date her if we broke up. We never did. We have two grown sons. God willing we will share many more years together.
Since you claim I have no clue about love, please share your story of marital success.
I will repeat, you can have your own opinions, but not your own facts. So tell me what part of Juliette's words to Nick do you not understand?
“I love you so much. And I really, really want to marry you someday.”
I am not trying to entertain you, but to enlighten you.
New Guy