10-28-2015, 10:24 AM
(10-28-2015, 05:58 AM)irukandji Wrote:(10-28-2015, 05:31 AM)New Guy Wrote:(10-27-2015, 05:10 PM)irukandji Wrote:Hi Irukanji,(10-27-2015, 05:01 PM)New Guy Wrote: Hello Forum,
There is once again contention regarding the character of the Grimm characters. The characters must be able to discern good from evil. For example, in 3.04 Nick risks his own life to save Elly from drowning. Hank thought they had both drowned, but Nick's Grimm super breath saved the day. The NBC recap describes it as an act of "heroism."
There are many instances of Nick's selfless heroism. His motivation is to do good. Renard only acts in his own self interest. At times Renard's activity happens to coincide with good, so he may accidentally appear good.
You can make you own assessments of the characters, but if it seems hard to justify that if Nick was good then he would have let Elly drown.
New Guy
Was Elly the cute blonde or the cute brunette? Nick has a thing for helping/saving cute girls. I doubt his actions would be the same if a manticore was drowning. Again, it's that complete weakness of character showing.
Two bums tied Elly to an anchor and threw her in water to drown. Nick risked his life to save her. I say that was selfless heroism. I see a decisive display of Nick's strength of character.
When did Nick leave a helpless manticore to drown?
New Guy
I'm not arguing with you. I just said Nick has a thing for cute girls and was wondering if his 'selfless heroism' would be so apparent if the victim were not so attractive. If you can cite examples of where he risked everything to rescue someone not so attractive, I would love to read about them.
Hi Irukandji,
Since you asked, I took a brief look at:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Nick_Burkhardt
There you will find this about Nick's personality: "Aside from his ability of prospection, he has a good amount of self-confidence that never crosses over into arrogance. This, along with his ability to stay calm and rational in difficult situations gives him an edge in coping with his new found powers. Nick's sheer bravery is incredible. Multiple times he's leapt into dangerous situations to save others, and even when faced with opponents who are at least his equal, he refuses to back down.
Nick has a keen sense of fair play and a good moral compass. Despite the many atrocities he sees every day as a policeman, it never blinds him to the inherent goodness inside all creatures, and because of this, he has taken it upon himself to not only fulfill his role as a Grimm in protecting humans from dangerous Wesen, but also to protect Wesen from those of their kind who are out to harm them, along with humans who may come after them for similar reasons."
For another example:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Monroe
Check the choice of words in the Last Grimm Standing summary:"Nick runs to save Monroe's life and arrives just in time to risk his life in the arena to save Monroe."
I hope season 5 proves Nick able to overcome the loss of his Mother and the woman he asked to be his wife. I hope he retains his "moral compass" and his natural role as protector.
New Guy