06-20-2019, 12:14 AM
(06-19-2019, 02:28 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:syscrash, again we seem to watch different stuff on the same screen. I saw Jon stab Deny in a roofless mostly intact throne room, while Arya was trying to help a peasant woman with her daughter get destroyed, running from common living quarters to common living quarters. I saw a totally destroyed city in all areas, not just the rich neighborhoods.You ignore Cersi brought a large number of people from the common area into the Red Keep. So yes you would see the poor running in the streets. The privileged would have retreated inside most likely to their cellars. Remember the rich all had cool places where they could store their food.
Quote:What I saw was Deny, knowing Jon, to be the true heir to the throne, waiting to abdicate, the throne, to her for her to sit on it. Then, I saw, Jon stabbing her. She never got the chance, to sit on any throne, in disgust.John never wanted the throne. He was never a threat. He was only a threat if the wheel stayed in place. The wheel to determines who leads. Remember her vision was to break the wheel. As for having a chance! She choose to address her followers on the steps, rather then hold court on the Throne. That is a significant difference. Also you say you only saw the roof gone. Consider she caused enough damage to cave in the basement. The Keep was destroyed. She was destroying what she saw as the root of the problem, the symbol of privilege. Consider, up to that point it was about sitting on the Throne. In the end she destroyed the Throne room. Also consider of all the attacks on the Red Keep. The writers singled out the attack on the window in the Throne room. They would not have filmed it that way if it was not important narrative.
Quote:Reality Check. Here is what I saw. A "high born" privileged family name, the Stark's, not only retain in control of the North, it was upgraded to an independent Kingdom, under the high born, Sansa Stark.And that was the point. The madness was, thinking she could end control by the privileged. The irony was what they ended up with was the madness. The madness of doing the same thing and expecting a different result. That was shown in the council as we watched the conversation go from reform to personal interest. The thing we don't agree on and what you find as writer intent. Is you never consider the significant of how something filmed. You see the imagery for it's cinematic appeal. You see it from an emotional position. Where I realize There is never a scene filmed where the writers do not consider the message along with the emotional impact of the scene. But the biggest thing that should be consider. A film is a writers form of expression. It is a reflection of what they think and what they want to say. I something like GOT not only do you have the message, you have to story, and you have the mythology. The mythology defines the story structure. The story is used to deliver the message. Even though the story is not the message. I kid shows yes the story is the message but not in shows that are more art than function.
Quote:Dany initially wanted to be the great liberator but she elevated herself to the status of a goddess which is why she cracked.Danny never once was seen wearing or acting regal. When she took Meereen her outfit was inspired by the unsully. Then it became more Dortraky when she went to Dragon stone. Then the coat dress where Wildling inspired when she went up north. Where as with Cersi and Sansa they both wore gowns and acted Regal.
Danny was the one character that made a point of never forgetting where she came from and what she had been through. Cersi and Sans wanted to erase their pass.
Yea, Ok, whatever. I guess I must have missed the scene where they showed the rest of us the detailed blueprints of RK and the privileged housings of the rich.
You know you are OLD, when you see the Slide Ruler you used in college selling in an ANTIQUE SHOP!!