(06-17-2019, 01:09 AM)syscrash Wrote: The problem I had with the ending is it made no sense political or logically. You end with creating a council of all the realms except Kings Landing which has more people then all the other realms put together. Why would Kings Landing listen to the council. especially with the assassination of the one person they would have listen to if for no other reason then out of fear. with Danny gone what do they have to fear. The show made it clear Kings Landing with the reed keep was not penetrable. Without Danny's dragon they would have never had a chance. The fact that Danny destroyed the Red Keep, they now have a chance to possible be able to control Kings Landing. Yet her doing that now labels her as the mad queen.
It is funny reading all the comments they are all based on how the show portrayed the solution being communication and compromise. And that is the problem I have with the ending. That type of ideology would never work in the world the previous seasons described. In the other cases people reasoned with Danny. The ending they did not even try and reason. They made no argument why. John only stated she shouldn't. The writers should have had Danny presented with the idea of the council, and then have her reject it. Not just take the position that her way would not work. especially after her having success in astopor, and meereeen.
It is the sugar coated ending that I had the most trouble with. All these season it has been about survival of the fittest. All of a sudden it is about communication and compromise. And that is the problem.
It's weird how Varys and Tyrion kept trying to paint her as mad if she didn't listen to their advice. I could buy that if any of their plans ever worked but they all failed. They were so focused on her not being hated but their strategy would've never gotten her the throne.
It's more frustrating when you think about what Dany initially wanted to do. She didn't want to burn KL. She only wanted to go after the Red Keep. There would've been casualties but it wouldn't have been nearly as devastating as they painted it. Cersei had just blew up the Sept killing thousands, including the queen, the Westeros version of the pope, her relatives, many nobles, and who knows who else. Yet, she was still followed and the people even cheered when Euron walked Ellaria and Tyene through KL. The show kept trying to tell me Dany would be hated of she used her dragons to attack the Red Keep bit that's a hard sell after seeing what Cersei had just done. Cersei had already proven herself to be a mad queen yet she still held her title with no claim whatsoever.
Dany would be queen with all of her dragons and army intact had she just ignored what Varys and Tyrion advised her to do. The true madness was her giving them as many chances as she did. Keep in mind that Tyrion is the brother of the kingslayer and Varys sent assassins after her but she forgave them, took them into her inner circle, and still heeded their advice. She was more forgiving than most monarchs. I know the books have Varys and Tyrion in much different spots so the show deciding to do what they did with them as it relates to Dany only made it more nonsensical as most of their changes have.
As for the council, how is it that Tyrion was the one who basically decided the future of Westeros? He was a prisoner on trial. Half the country hated him for serving Dany and the other half hated him for betraying her. Yet, he was the one running the show, got to decide who would be the new king, and got to be Hand of the King.
On top of all that, Tyrion was an idiot. None of his plans worked and he shares a lot of responsibility for what happened in KL. It seemed like the showrunners banked on his likability to sell that entire farce.
And yeah, the ending was way too saccharine. The country is in ruins and would only get worse based on the way things went down. There would be a lot more fighting on that counsel and they wouldn't be so agreeable with each other.