(10-26-2017, 05:36 PM)irukandji Wrote: I was not all that shocked by the rape. Wives were property and men could do what they wanted with them. I don't think rape was all that uncommon. In the mini-series Merlin, Uther (as Cornwall) practically does the same thing to Lady Ingraine.
The reason I asked about Sansa possibly being pregnant is I wondered if that was going to be thrown in on top of everything else. Sansa, in my opinion is probably the worst characterization of the entire series. She's the designated victim and worse yet, she's a boring designated victim.
I wrote how the marriage to Ramsay came about for a reason. The rape was the result of characters acting completely out of character along with a storyline that didn't make any sense. Of course, Sansa is going to get raped if she married a rapist. The problem was changing her storyline and making her and Littlefinger act in a way completely contradictory to their characters in order for it to happen.
First of all, Sansa's marriage to Tyrion needed to be annulled officially. Her marriage being tossed aside just because LF says she didn't sleep with Tyrion and having no septon annul it is absurd even within the universe of the show. Lysa told Sansa "They'll execute that dwarf and you'll be free to marry Robin. You'll be the Lady of the Vale." She's clearly saying Tyrion needs to die first otherwise she could've had Sansa marry Robin any time she wanted to if Sansa not consummating her marriage with Tyrion is all it took. It doesn't surprise me though since these are the same writers who find it conceivable that Rhaegar can have his marriage with Elia annulled even though they had two children.
This isn't about wives being property because I never tried to dispute that and I feel like you really didn't address my actual complaint. My issues with Sansa's storyline isn't about rape itself and never was or will be. It's about the storyline itself which would've been horrible even without the rapes, remember she was being raped every night after her marriage, because it never made any sense. Why would she ever agree to marry a Bolton and why would LF ever propose it and leave her alone with them since he has such a huge investment in her personally and politically? It would've been better for both of them to keep her in the Vale and then take the Knights of the Vale to reclaim WF in her name. Unnecessary risks don't make either of them smart. And how could Sansa possibly get any character development from it since we already saw her at the mercy of a psychopath who was from the family that murdered her own? They didn't realize they were destroying her character by sending her to WF. They made her more naive than season 1 Sansa because even she would've never made that choice. Do you think she would've offered herself to Joffrey after he had Ned's head cutoff?
There have been other rapes in the series but you don't hear me complain about them as long as their narratively justified. I don't have a problem with Mirri Maz Duur being raped in season 1 but I do with Cersei being raped by Jamie in season 4 because the former made sense while the latter doesn't. Jamie is not a rapist. In fact, he saved Brienne from it in season 3 and it led to the loss of his hand.
In all honestly, the show needed to bring in writers who could handle this subject because they're horrible at it. They claim they didn't even realize a rape was being filmed between Jamie and Cersei. Anyone who does that has no business writing about it no matter what the setting.