03-12-2016, 12:30 PM
(03-12-2016, 12:00 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:(03-12-2016, 12:09 AM)Hell Rell Wrote:(08-26-2015, 09:18 AM)wfmyers1207 Wrote: Of the books, yes. The HBO series not so much. I didn't like the changes they made from the books. IMAO they were NOT improvements!
I didn't read the books and I hated season 5 so I can only imagine how you felt. I hate when characters are completely rewritten just to sell the current plot.
Despite the uproar, I still don't think they get criticized enough for what they did with Sansa this season. I don't know how anyone can analyze that plot and tell me it made any sense for her to marry Ramsay or for LF to not know about him and be perfectly fine with not only giving her away but leaving her there alone. Was getting Sansa raped so important that they destroyed LF and Sansa's characters while downplaying Ramsay's reputation? The show is no longer great because it has become too sensationalized.
Where is the complexity of the first few seasons? Every character has been dumbed down and no longer has any depth. The priority is now on shocking moments instead of good characterization and storytelling. Ramsay is a super villain, Tyrion is worshipped, and Bronn is still around for nothing but pure fanservice. To be honest, Tyrion could fit into that category as well. And I hope that the show never gets away with their poor choices on the grounds of "realism" ever again. There was nothing realistic about Ramsay, Tyrion, or a host of other characters stories this past season.
The changes HBo made after S1, which actually followed the first book pretty well, were not improvements. And I didn't care for the gratuitous sex they threw in either. I am NOT a prude, there was sex in the novels, and sex can be an important part of a story.
But, in the HBO series it's: "Look people f$%^ing, because, people f$%^ing! Now, that's entertainment!" Give me a break!
I'm not a prude either. If anything, watching the show has made me less of a prude. But, that scene with Tyene stripping for Bronn didn't even try to justify itself. That was for the male audience because the show has been reduced to pure male fantasy.
This scene took place in the same episode that featured Gilly almost being raped and then immediately rewarding Sam with sex afterward because nothing gets a woman in the mood like a violent sexual assault. Sam gets his cherry popped because of the "nice guy" trope. It also featured Sansa's boobs on display more than we've ever seen them. The only thing covering her nipples was her hair. This was after we found out she has been locked in a room and raped every night but this scene fetishized it.
They are probably going to use it as fuel for Sansa attempting to take WF back and get revenge on the Boltons because she apparently didn't have enough reasons. It's like the Red Wedding never happened. Being raped in her home will only make her want her to take it back that much more. The resulting trauma will be of little issue.
I have a lot more problems with it such as the writing itself. The dialogue has taken a nosedive. Lines such as "the dwarf lives 'til we find a cock merchant" and "you want the good girl but need the bad pussy" were allowed on air. The show has adult content but a lot of the writing is juvenile. I won't even get into Ramsay's 20 good men and how that whole thing played out.