12-03-2015, 08:33 PM
(12-03-2015, 05:18 PM)izzy Wrote:Hello Izzy,(12-03-2015, 11:21 AM)New Guy Wrote: Regardless, fidelity is necessary if a couple wants a trusting relationship
Really? So no swingers or folks in an open marriage trust one another? People in polygamous marriages do not have trust each other? So several Native American subcultures that do not embrace monogamy in marriage do not have trust in their marriages either?
I am just pointing out while it may matter to you and many other people, it does not matter to all.
You keep trying to interpret the world from your limited scope of morality and vision.
And you can question how much it really mattered to Julliette and Nick. They both had expressed that the sex when Julliette became the blonde-Adalind-doopleganger thingie was beyond just good.
Of course your mileage may vary.
(12-03-2015, 01:18 PM)irukandji Wrote: I tend to think in a relationship like Nick and Juliette's that trust is the most important element rather than infidelity. Trust covers all aspects of the relationship, for instance, Nick not telling Juliette he was a Grimm right away. That implies a great lack of trust on his part.
I think you hit upon the key issue. The thing I have puzzled over is why Nick did not trust Julliette, I get why she may have had reservations about him, but why did he have reservations about her? It makes me think there is a whole dynamic to their relationship that we have never been privy to. Maybe I was right, and Juliette was slumming when she met Nick, maybe she was prone to indiscriminate dalliances and Nick came to learn of her reputation...or maybe Nick is just emotionally damaged goods due to presumably losing his parents at a young age...who knows, but it just seems odd to me.
Surveys show 90 percent of Americans believe adultery is morally wrong.
http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/i...stats.html
Marital vows often include "I _________, do promise this day to love, honor and cherish you as my wife/husband, companion, and partner.
I place this ring upon your hand as a sign of my love and fidelity."
Some of us believe a vow is your sacred word. If a couple makes a vow of fidelity and one or both break that vow they have no honor and do not deserve to be trusted. So why is it 60% of men and 40% of women have affairs?
Infidelity can be hazardous. There is research about infidelity such as:
http://news.utexas.edu/2005/05/23/psychology
"Killing is fundamentally in our nature, having evolved over thousands of years from intense competition for reproductive success, according to a new theory by Dr. David Buss, an evolutionary psychologist at The University of Texas at Austin.
In Buss’s sample of 429,729 homicide FBI files, 13,670 were cases in which a husband killed his wife. A husband discovering his wife having an extramarital affair is one of the leading causes of women being murdered, particularly when the woman is dramatically younger than her husband. This supports earlier research conducted by Buss of more than 10,000 people in 37 cultures that found that the traits men most valued in a mate were beauty, youth and fidelity. Unlike women whose internal fertilization guarantees she is the mother of her children, regardless of her partner’s sexual infidelities, before the days of paternity testing, a man had to rely solely on the fidelity of his mate. The homicide study leads to a disturbing theory—the more good-looking, healthy and fertile the woman, the more motivated the man will be to kill her upon discovering a sexual infidelity."
So who has been naughty and who has been nice?
New Guy