09-14-2015, 02:15 PM
(09-14-2015, 01:22 PM)New Guy Wrote:(09-14-2015, 10:08 AM)irukandji Wrote:(09-14-2015, 09:28 AM)New Guy Wrote:(09-14-2015, 07:17 AM)eric Wrote: There seems to be a pretty grim attitude here concerning love. Slumming, only being with someone in the same socio-economic caste as yourself, looking down on the someone because they are not a catch, or are out of your league. Nick and Juliette were both good looking, youngish, doing well, getting along, Nick bought a ring for Juliette, their friends(non-wessen) thought they were great together and in love. If you cannot love a person who is slightly "different" than yourself, you seem to have settled for someone "safe", which to me makes me wonder if you love them or just a clone of yourself. I would worry if you did not think the other person was special and offered you more than safety. Differences can be the spice of life, even if they give you occasional heart burn Nick tried to explain Wessen World when Juliette was in danger. In the trailer he said he didn't yet understand a lot of it himself. It was very disjointed because he was just starting to feel his way.He explained it better to Truble because he had learned more himself.Hello Eric,
You have make valid points. The NBC Recap of 1.16, "the thing with feathers" reads:
"Nick pulls out the engagement ring and asks Juliette to marry him. Juliette is hesitant and eventually says she can't. She loves him deeply and wants to marry him someday, but she knows Nick is still keeping things from her. Juliette understands Aunt Marie's death was hard on Nick, yet until he can let her back in, she's won't say yes."
She "loves him deeply and wants to marry him someday." She won't say yes until Nick "lets her back in." IMHO, there is no indication she believes she is "slumming" and considers Nick out of her league.
The compensation data I presented earlier indicate they both would have annual income in the 80k - 110k range. IMHO, they are in the same socio-economic class. As such, "slumming" would not be possible for Nick and Juliette.
Slumming was possible for King Freddie and Bad Boy Kenneth since they are royals and Juliette is a commoner. They duped Juliette into helping them murder a bunch of people and attempt to capture Diana. Now all three of them are dead. They received their just deserts.
New Guy
And yet.....as you yourself have often said, he proposed multiple times and she never accepted. And, the recaps never go on to state that she continued to love him deeply. Sorry, this isn't evidence that she wasn't slumming.
Lacking any data to the contrary, Juliette and Nick are in the same socio-economic class. As such neither can possibly "slum" with the other.
Juliette's rejection of Nick's proposal has nothing to do with his economic status. I see no evidence that Juliette considers Nick "less fortunate" than her.
Juliette said no at the time because she felt at the time that nick was not being fully open/honest with her. With everything that had taken place up to that moment she felt that while he loved her there was something he was not telling her and she wanted him to come-out and say whatever it was.
I just re-watch season one and I am more certain now that the writers/producers drop the ball with their development of this character. I believe that should have incorporated her into nick's identity by episode 13/14 still have her lose her memory of him at the end of the season. Bring back her memory earlier in season two, probably around episode 9 or 10. Build up the character and still remove at the end of season 4. I believe viewers would be more invested in her than they were. If Rosalee was removed instead of Juliette the up-roar from the fans would be more intense.