(05-05-2019, 03:18 PM)irukandji Wrote:(05-05-2019, 02:15 PM)N_grimm Wrote: To quote the script from the Grimm-episodes doesn’t clarify when discussing a series based on these scripts? It’s better than pulling things out of thin air.Oh stop with the pulling things out of thin air. It's all the same with you all who pull pieces of the script together to support your so called points. It never works and when anyone disagrees with you, then they're pulling things out of thin air.
No one is pulling things out of thin air. I said Adalind was a guest in Nick's house and simply because she screwed him, that doesn't all of the sudden make her a family member.
If you google “family”, this is the first definition you get: “a group consisting of two parents and their children living together as a unit”. Adaind was a family member.
According to your logic (not mine!), Juliette was a houseguest in season 1-4. She screwed Nick (you wording, not mine!) so she didn’t have to pay the rent when living in his house…
(05-05-2019, 03:18 PM)irukandji Wrote:(05-05-2019, 02:15 PM)N_grimm Wrote: I guess it was these wicked creators again, hiding away the storyline. Having the hero’s «girlfriend» manipulate him for two seasons, without ever telling him or the audience. I guess Nick considered Adalind just a houseguest. When he told her he loved her, it was a lie. When he shouted to the ghost of his mother and aunt that he wanted Adalind back, it was a lie. When the powerful Hexenbiest Eve told Nick she could “feel” that Nick loved Adalind, she lied. When Adalind told Nick she loved him, she lied. And when Diana told Renard that Adalind loved Nick, Adalind lied to her daughter as well. Right?Um.....perhaps you forgot? Nick went back in time so the "I love you" between him and Adalind never occurred. So yes, you could say those wicked creators hid whatever storyline was supposed to be coming out of that. Correct?
Please. Why do you keep repeating that absurd statement? Nick was sucked through a portal – he didn’t take the “I love you”- statement back. BTH, he also only told his son he loved him in the cabin minutes before he told Adalind. According to your logic, he took it back and probably never told him again. Nick being sucked true the portal didn’t change how he and Adalind felt for each other. Nick had literally gone true hell to get her back, so it was more than obvious that he told her again.
(05-05-2019, 03:18 PM)irukandji Wrote:(05-04-2019, 09:10 AM)irukandji Wrote: No indication? Well, given that you have gone from blue to purple in the face twisting and denying the Nick-Adalind relationship, this is no surprise. Let me give you the clues anyway: Adalind and Nick say they love each other.
No, Nick took back his "I love you to Adalind" when he went back in time. So that never occurred.
(05-04-2019, 09:10 AM)irukandji Wrote: Nick killes the devil to get Adalind back. He then removes her ring and declares Adalind, Diana and Kelly are his family. We then get the 20 years later scene, where we learn that Nick and Adalind are waiting for their children, while Kelly is signing the book with Kelly Burkhardt (not Kelly- Shade-Burkhardt). That was enough for the Grimm wiki to put Adalind as Nick’s wife.You know, it's funny. You go to all of these great lengths to quote scripts, yet when I question the fact that there is nothing to show that Nick and Adalind are together 20 years later, you cry foul and talk about Grimm wiki?
BTW, Kelly's name would not have automatically changed from Kelly Schade-Burkhardt to Kelly Burkhardt *if* Adalind and Nick had married. He would always be Kelly Schade-Burkhardt unless *he* made the legal move to shorten his name.
With that, I will pose the question. Why would Kelly change his name to Kelly Burkhardt?
If Kelly grew up in a family where both his parents had the Burkhardt-name, it would be natural for him to only use that name. If his parents had different last-names, then it would be more natural for him to use both. He signed the Grimmbook Kelly Burkhardt.
The 20 years later scene had an important role to play – give the fans closure. Why is Diana referring to “mom”? Adalind never hunted wesen. Because they wanted to tell the viewers that Nick and Adalind were still together. Why did Kelly write in the Grimm book, and not Nick 20 years earlier? Because the writers wanted to tell the viewers that Kelly is a Grimm - following in Nick’s footsteps – and it’s a perfect ending to a show about fairytales to show the book closing. If you paid attention, Adalind’s stuff is also in the trailer– her witch hat for example. Why? That’s just another hint telling us that Nick and Adalind are living together as a family. We learn Diana is hunting wesen. Why? She’s 75% hexenbeist. That’s telling us that she was raised in the Nick/Adalind family, where Nick had an important influence on her. That scene, together with Nick telling Adalind he loved her, removing the ring, having Nick shout to his mom and aunt that he wants Adalind back, having Z refer to Kelly and Diana as “your (i.e. Nick’s) children” and having Nick refer to Adalind, Kelly and Diana as “my family” was MORE than enough for 99 percent of the viewers to conclude that Nick and Adalind are endgame. That why Grimm wiki has Adalind as Nick’s wife.
(05-08-2019, 02:54 AM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:We then get the 20 years later scene, where we learn that Nick and Adalind are waiting for their childrenThat is an assumption. Diana said mom and dad are waiting for us. Bias may lead you to believe she is referring to Nick and Adalind. But their are a number of possibilities. Because Diana made the statement it would have been said the same if she was referring to Adalind and Sean.
Why do you keep posting conspiracy theories? You may have noticed that Grimm was about Nick. This is from the Opening Theme for season 2: “There once was a man who lived a life so strange, it had to be true. […………] This is the life of a Grimm”. Renard was a supporting character that mostly served the role as a villain. Grimms had tried to stop the royals from getting the keys for hundreds of years. So, when Nick got his hands on the keys, the stick and finally the staff, you think the writers wanted to tell us that this was potentially in his hands the selfish backstabbing evil-doer Sean Renard – one of the Nick’s enemies? Not only that, but Nick’s son, would be hunting wesen together with his dad’s enemy - an almost 70 years old half-wesen? The whole point of the 20 years later scene was to give the fans closure. Nick was the hero of the show, so of source it was him Diana was referring to as “dad”.
(05-11-2019, 09:20 AM)irukandji Wrote: Nick doesn't look at change as a favorable thing. Otherwise, he would have changed his world with the stick to something better than the same old thing, 20 years later.
I know you hate quotes, put please explain how this is consistent with what Kelly wrote in the Grimm book:
“And though the people of our world would never know how close they had come to hell on Earth, we knew, because he never turned away from who he was, a Grimm.
And for that reason, the world was changed”.
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