(08-05-2015, 04:17 PM)wfmyers1207 Wrote:Disagree not a problem in fact I will even put out a way to create to your point (haven't change my mind). Lets go to Hank and Nick after Nick kills Kenneth paraphrasing Hank says something like remember what happen last time we pulled a gun on Juliette didn't go so well, Nick responded we need Turbel. Now go to the mansion Kenneth asks Juliette what Nick will do she said be will be looking for me. With Juliette statement showed she understands Nick with that we have to assume Nick understands her also.(08-05-2015, 03:36 PM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(08-05-2015, 02:25 PM)New Guy Wrote:I have always thought that Trubel showed up a Nick's because when else was going. I also believe Trubel had the crossbow for Chavez and only used it to protect Nick. Like you said as far as the Scooby's knew Juliette was with the King. No planning just happened.(08-05-2015, 10:30 AM)irukandji Wrote: It was going to be either Nick or Trubel who killed Juliette. When Nick couldn't do it, Trubel did the job for him. That was Nick's backup plan. There was never any intention of showing mercy to Juliette.Hi Irukandji,
I doubt Nick had any plan for Juliette. He likely thought she was on the helicopter with Freddy and Diana. Juliette surprised (ambushed?) Nick and the rest is per the recap. The word "mercy" is from NBC's recap, and as a viewer that is what I saw.
Trubel cared about both Nick and Juliette. One could say Trubel carried out a "mercy killing" similar to when a Veterinarian puts down an animal. Nick had told Trubel to kill Juliette and Trubel heard Juliette ask Nick to "do it." Fortunately, Trubel has fast instinct in a life and death crisis.
New Guy
This is one time I disagree with you. The way things went down, I thought Nick and Truble set it up. He thought he might not be able to do it, so he had Truble as back up.
Nick knew Juliette would not leave Portland without some ending to the relationship. See this is where I start to disagree I never even after what Nick said kill her saw him wanting her dead.The heat of the "Moment" statement. Will grant that the Scooby's would have done it at the mansion. Possible question did she tell the King she would kill Nick we should look at that. or al least we have to consider it?
Getting to Trubel the woman she ws talking to in Bud truck (we think Chavez) when she said I will call you when I get to the house. Is it possible that Trubel intended to deliver Juliette to Chavez, and for those who want Juliette back at some point the bolts were filled with the zombie potion. Trubel likely knows the cure so after they bury Juliette the dig her up and put her in a hexen proof ceil an give her the cure.
We never see Nick and Trubel alone together can Nick be sure Juliette will show up at the house alone (looks like they did kill all her help)? When will she show up? Would Nick want Trubel to have that guilt as Juliette had always be kind to her? This is the one statement is why I think it was unplanned. I can see Nick knowing that Juliette would show up, but I see it as him wanting to end it and both go there own ways not in death.
I get back to another point with hexen's and Grimm's in all fight the hexen has to use hand on looks to me that their telekinesis doesn't work around a Grimm. This has nothing to do with his post I just find it of interest.
Now for the most interesting question why didn't Juliette turn off her phone she knows police work (even us fans from other shows would know to turn off you phone and pull the battery) she knows Wu will track her phone. Was she leading the Scooby's to the mansion if I go this way than she didn't mean for Kelly to die. I could live with that and give her the benefit of the doubt maybe.
With out you point wfmyer I would not even stopped to think about this. Still haven't changed my mind but after thought I can see away to go so now I do have some questions. This the fun of the forum