10-21-2015, 11:25 AM
(10-21-2015, 08:24 AM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote:I like your questions on how long. I would think only a guess only seconds or a minute or two. Once the brain is dead I don't see anything working for a hexen. What did you make of Elizabeth stopping time for a few seconds? Could that have been needed to give her the time needed?(10-21-2015, 07:08 AM)irukandji Wrote:(10-21-2015, 06:24 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Good back points but you know there will be a but. For the B5 fans the seen something close to this, for those not on B5 the was a device that took like force from one and gave it to another for healing.
I believe Elizabeth snake was this type potion. I took the live force from her and gave it to Sean bring him back from the dead but it did have to use very quickly after death. We know it didn't cure him he was still wounded like B5. What I found most interesting was her eyes flash blue and even thing stopped power we never seen in any other hexen, so for a hexen what is her power level?
Adalind when they are trying to get Jack to leave says Sean must have died. They had to make Jack think Sean died again for him the leave.
Sean says to his Mother that is the second time you gave me life.
She says she could only do that once likely the second time would kill her and Sean would still be dead. I think the writers used the snake for the symbol of the medical caduceus 2 snakes.
As always just my 2 cents.
And here's the other but to this. If Sean came back to life as the result of Lazarus syndrome, it could just as easily be argued that it was the doctors and medical staff who brought the syndrome on rather than Elizabeth.
Also, the caduceus is the incorrect symbol for medicine. It is actually the Rod of Asclepius which is the symbol of healing. Leave it to the US to get this completely mixed up. The caduceus is a symbol of alchemy so the two headed snake may have been appropriate in Elizabeth's case.
@jsgrimm45... very good points. Tahnks.
@irukandji I see yout point and actually I agree with you that the point in the scene, in my point of view, it was to show that only a powerfull hexanbiest would be able to save Sean: that was magic. Grimm is not completly free of magic. Juliette's tranformation in hexanbiest... the hexanbiest spirit... the connection betwaeen Nick and Adelaind during Nick lost of grimm powers... The cookie Adelaind made for Hank... Nick zommbie effects... All of those events can be explained by magic.... but also as a natural power not know by normal humans.
My guess about Sean is that he was not in Lazarus syndrome * .... maybe he was in a stage after the Lazarus Syndrome... maybe he was dead.... But he was not dead 3 days... he was dead for a few seconds... I think that is the condition... He was dead in few seconds and so Elizabeth could transfer some of her life to Sean (as you said, the hexanbiest spirit). As jsgrimm45 said, Elizabeth can do that just once. And we can do more questions... for exemple... Can this life transfer be done with anyone? Or can this be done only between hexanbiest and zauberbist? Or can this be done only between members of the same family?
Again, I think this is ok with the rest of the show: there is magic, but this is not supernatural... the magic in grimm can be explained by the power of controling forces that is almost natural.
* Lazarus syndrome: I don't think Sean was a case of Lazarus Syndrome. I quoted Lazarus syndrome just to say that this happen in real life too. And also to show that the fact the doctors gave up on Sean doesn't mean there was no other way to save him. Human medice couldn't save Sean, but a hexanbiest with the knowlodge of controlling natural powers could save him. I think the correct debate here is what natural magic power Elizabeth did use and what are the limits (rule) for the use of this magic.
Let's consider Juliette. Can the writers bring her back in the way they did with Sean?
As far as know, only Adelaind would be able to do in Juliette the same ritual did in Sean (Elizabeth did it once and can't do it again.... There is no other known hexanbiest alive in the show.... unless the writers bring a new one...)
Juliette died and her budy will be stolled by Chavez. How log will she be dead? Can Elizabeth's ritual be done in any time? If yes, why didn't Adelaind use it in her mother?
I am not against the magic... I just think it has to have limits. And the question is: What are those limits for the ressurection ritual?
Also your question on Juliette I could see it if the want to bring Juliette back Chavez may have a hexen also we know she wesen. One of the spoiler is a locked door could that be Juliette in a hexen proof cell?
Your questions require more hair now.