10-19-2015, 05:59 AM
(10-18-2015, 03:23 PM)Adriano Neres Rodrigues Wrote:Good point Henrietta did tell Juliette she now control of nature not magic.(10-18-2015, 08:48 AM)irukandji Wrote:(10-18-2015, 07:58 AM)eric Wrote: Not wanting to be too nit picky, but when you say "the church dominated by men" thought some women were in league with the devil, that sure sounds like the churches of Europe to me. The middle and early modern times were full of witch trials in both Catholic and Protestant areas.
I don't think you're being nit picky. What I do think is you're misinterpreting my point. I'm agreeing with you that these women were practicing their healing arts prior to the power of the European church. But when the church established itself as a powerful entity, women who practiced the healing arts would have been fair game for the church to persecute.
(10-18-2015, 07:58 AM)eric Wrote: In current times, few witches are killed in Europe, but the practice continues in other areas, even when the religion is not dominated by men, and belief in "the devil", as opposed to evil spirtis, does not really exist. Magic is "real" for many people in the modern world, along with belief in evil spirits.
Well, again, I'm not disagreeing with you.
I agree with you both and I am glad that you understood the original idea of my post.
Just to add a new element to the debate, in the past (and now a days it happens too) the human kind used to believe as magic or spiritual things that they couldn't understand. Imagine if we are able to take a computer or a cell phone or something like that to the people in middle ages... They would think it is magic.
About the church, as the women in middle ages was healing using a "spiritual power" that was not from the church (as the church believed they were the good) ... It meant they were using a power from evil... I think that was the idea behind church's actions, at least officially... Bringing this to grimm... I think the writers try to use "magic" as it was something natural... It just wasn't explained by science yet. That is why we have the impression grimm is not about magic even it having magical potions.
The Nick powers for exemple was explained as an eye characteristic... Before that we though it was magic or same thing like that....
The wesen has a DNA explanation... Even some kinds like hexenbiest having some characteristics that looks like magic...