03-24-2015, 02:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2015, 02:27 PM by Samsarilian.)
(03-24-2015, 08:25 AM)speakeasy Wrote:(03-24-2015, 07:16 AM)busyizzy Wrote: I do think there is a natural vs nuture (@Samsarilian) thing going on here, but I don't think what @speakeasy said is completely at odds to that:
1. It is natural for any living organism who may be more powerful than those around it to want to try to dominate or manipulate. Adalind and her mother are prime examples of that. Adalind learned many behaviors from her mother, including intimidation of other Wesen and that she was on her own when she lost her powers. I figured if Kelly hadn't killed Catherine, eventually Adalind would have for her complete rejection;
2. A well-nurtured environment could ensure number 1 is put into context and the uses for this power be focused for the good; human nature--more than another other being--will ensure it won't always be for good and Wesen are still human beings but with a beast spirit; and
3. A being can have a good nature and be made darker or more self-absorbed due to heartbreak, illness, fear, anger, other personal experiences, etc. Many of the old grudges (Blutbad/Bauerschwein, Hatfields/McCoys, et al) were created because someone did something to another and the negative feelings and cycle were perpetuated.
In conclusion, Juliette may be someone with a naturally good nature, who was originally nurtured in a good environment. However, her authentic power has shifted and she's now being nurtured (sort of a new birth) by another Hexenbiest, about whose background we know nothing other than she's manipulative and not loyal. Further, Juliette has opened herself to depending on Sean Renard who is still an unknown and, if everyone would just remember, tried to kill Nick and Aunt Marie until he figured he could "use" Nick. Juliette's character is a total unknown at this point.
The nature vs. nurture debate continues to this day. I get the feeling from postings by Samsarilian and you that you both fall into the nurture side of the spectrum as having the most influence on the formation of a person's character. So does Kelly and the others, evidently. Guess I do, too, but in this case, can't escape feeling that of all possible wesen and, as you pointed out, given the source as Adalind's line, - the Hexenbiest in Juliette would fight hardest to win an internal battle for dominance. Should be intriguing to see how it all plays out; one thing we can't complain about in the journey we take with Grimm is that it's predictable.
But it's also fun to discuss events, and although I remain skeptical about N and J's chances for survival as a couple, I'll continue to do the only real thing we fans can do, and that's hoping for the best.
Actually I was studying to be an Engineer when I took Psychology one. I had been reading Psych text for years before that but Math and Logic are my filters. Nature and Nurture to me are the two sides of a single equation they are in balance as far as I can tell. You could also say that though I am a Christian by raising, training, and basic belief, I am a Tai-ist (sp? pronounced Dowist but it is chinese) or Wican/Druid by outlook. I believen in balance more than good or evil. They can not exist without each other any more than light and dark, day and night, passion (both love and hate) and appathy.
If I had something important to say, I would have mumbled it.