03-02-2018, 03:06 PM
(03-01-2018, 07:56 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Good catch on Grimms also being on the scene at the sametime and keeping wesen in control. @Adriano Neres Rodrigues point that wesen with the power would have destroyed humans on mate them out of the DNA group.
Using you idea that Grimms stopped this is good, this also answers one of the statements in season 1 that Grimms were on the decline could this be that wesen were also on the decline? Could this also explain why BC wanted the uprising?
Thia also would explain the Wesenrein group?
I would like to make some more speculations about wesen X grimm X humans in the beginning of the evolution process.
I was thinking about it: let's say 50.000 years ago... There would be tribes of humans and tribes of wesen. Certainly there would also have existed mixed tribes. But those mixed tribes would be originally wesen tribes (families) that for some reason accepted humans; or originally human tribes that for some reason accepted wesen. In some point ahead in time, I know that if that virtual reality had existed we would have weak wesen tribes working with humans (and grimm) against a common stronger wesen tribe. I also know that we would have humans against humans and wesen joining one of them. We would also have wesen against wesen and humans joining one of them. But this would happen after agriculture and the first cities. I am speculating about very begining point.
In this very beginning point, how would grimms find their way in this primitive world?
What advantages could a grimm bring to them in a fight against an enemy tribe?
What do grimms have to give/add strategically to a primitive fight?
Let's first try to think as an originally wesen tribe. The first point is that I think wesen would see grimm as human. We are talking about a time when they knew nothing about genetics or whatever. They believed only on what they could see. Grimm doesn't woge. So grimm is a human.
We must remember that if Grimms can identify wesen in half woge, wesen can do the same. Grimm are stronger than a normal human. But wesen are also stronger and some of them are also stronger than grimm.
So, if the enemy tribe was a human tribe, grimm would also be seeing as an enemy. If the enemy tribe was another wesen tribe, maybe a weak wesen tribe would like to have a grimm against a strong wesen tribe.
My point is: a grimm in a wesen tribe would add a very small amount of strategical advantage to that group.
Now last think like a human tribe.
If the enemy tribe is wesen, we have an enemy that can look like us. So a wesen can enter in our land and we would not know they are wesen until it was onlys too late. And wesen are stronger than normal human.
So a grimm in this human tribe would add a lot of stratigical advantages to that human tribe. Grimm can identify a wesen. Human can't. Grimm is stronger than a human and they are strong as almost any wesen.
If I were living on a primitive human tribe I would certainly follow the first grimm that I saw in my way.
Maybe the grimms were the ones responsible for the human surviving in that begging.
In real life, the first human leaders used religion plus military arguments to gain political power. Think about pharaohs. They said they were gods so Egyptian followed them. Think about roman emperors. They were military leaders that used that power in the political sphere.
If we take this analogy to grimm, in the very first begging... I think grimms would be seeing as a religious leader (they can see what others can't see) and/or military leaders (they are strong against wesen). This mean that if the Grimm didn't became the kings of the first cities, they would certainly be at the king's side.
So, in this imaginary world, grimms would be pharaos (or pharaos priests). Grimms would be king and general in Greek and in Rome.
A world dominated by grimm they would for sure keep wesen under control because this is their source of power. But they wouldn't destroy the wesen because wesen are the enemies that justify the grimm existance.
How would this evolve to the world today? The DNA is a question. I know grimm has the weak DNA (I mean, when mixing with others DNA). But what about wesen?
Anyway, I think the Grimm would be connected to the kings. Maybe many royals were a mix of royal and grimm (personally I think this make sense about Kenneath for example, even the show saying the opposite).
Maybe only the families of the seven grimm got appart from the royals, but I don't think there were only 7 grimm families in the crusade times.
This would justify why wesen got out of the radar: the grimm fighting against them and using them in political ways.
All I am doing here is a speculation open to different ideas. And speculating, maybe it is not that there are few grimms today. Maybe only the descendants of the seven are few. The other families would be in control of their coutries: political and military leaders, just following the tradition of the first grimm primitive grimms.
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