(07-09-2017, 11:19 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: I get what they were trying to do with Nick and Juliette at the beginning of the show, opting for a pre-existing relationship versus building a new one but it never translated well imo.
Funny, what I got from S1 was that they were showing us a relationship that they didn't want us to get invested in. So, I didn't. I always felt that they were holding them back and inserting these 'issues' because they were going to unleash some kind of tragic ending to the relationship. Hence Juliette's refusal to marry Nick, for whatever reason she gave at the time, was confirmation of this to me as well. BT said her character was initially passive. She was either given directions to make her character passive or felt that her character was passive based on the directions given. This also makes me feel that writers didn't want us too invested in the relationship they were portraying. I kept waiting for it to end but they kept taking forever to end it. That was what made it torture for me.
(07-10-2017, 04:14 AM)dicappatore Wrote: My outlook for the first 3 seasons hooked us to watch but also frustrated us at the same time. They took too many episodes to divulge the Wesen world to Hank. They took too long in keeping Julietta’s memories from coming back. I mean I felt more tortured than Nick was.
When they finally do let her get her memories back they, at the same time, expose her to the Wesen world. How about less time on the process of exposing her and more time for them to enjoy the moment.
What happens just after they make up and he barely moves back in? He becomes a walking dead and again, instead of them enjoying each other? They focus on Nick guilt, of killing one lousy bad guy in the bar. Add in, looses his Grimm, Sex with the wrong woman. Then the Monroe/Rosalee marriage issue and right after that, Season 4, The show killer, she becomes a Hexenbiest.
When you think about it. They were only an actual couple for the 1st season which left a bad taste in my mouth on how long she was kept in the dark. I don’t even want to get into poor Wu’s time of his punishment.
Without changing the plot, how about changing the time sequences of these occurrences? I see so many other TV series that are less interesting to watch but sustained its existence.
Hate to beat a dead horse to death. The writers let the show die, not us, the viewers. Come on, even you pro-Juliette posters have to agree with that!
The first two seasons had the best ratings. The third is where the first big drop occurs and in terms of actual numbers, would be the worst drop because it compared the past season, S2, which had the highest ever numbers, to season 3.
Another poster (@Nicholas White, I believe) mentioned that generally, because writers write to 'wow' the audience at the start of shows, by the end of the second season most shows are pretty much past their best years. Since a lots of shows get cancelled by season one or season two due to ratings dropping off or not picking up, I see his point. Grimm was able to hang on with all the many issues people had with the writing for six seasons. That was not too shabby I think.
However, I still have plenty I would have changed in the story telling to make it more pleasurable for me. Knowing what I know now especially, the big ones are; I would have let Juliette end the relationship after a shortened coma. Then, I would have let Adalind stay away from Portland after finding out her mother was killed by Kelly Sr. Basically, I would have removed both women from the show and Nick's life. Maybe that way, based on the format they had, they would have had more time to devote to crafting more grimm/wesen history, developing Nick's character properly, weaving stories together cohesively to avoid loose ends and dropped plots, etc.