(01-01-2019, 01:58 PM)irukandji Wrote:(01-01-2019, 01:03 PM)N_grimm Wrote: Sure. This is a description of the betrayal…. Why do you ask for evidence? I’m describing the storyline.I'm asking for evidence because as far as I know there was nothing in any storyline anywhere that indicated Juliette tricked Kelly into a deathtrap and then did nothing to stop her beheading. This is your statement. Don't try to imply that it's evidence.
The simple statement is that Juliette sent an email to Kelly telling her Nick was in danger. Kelly responded by stating she was on her way. Did Juliette betray Kelly? Sure she did.
She also told Kelly on the phone that the front door was unlocked and the house safe, while the enemy was waiting for her. If that was not “tricking Kelly into a deathtrap”, you are basically assuming Juliette was a moron. She also listened to Kelly being killed without lifting a finger – despite her "super-hex" powers. Funny how you describe that as “nothing in any storyline anywhere”.
(01-01-2019, 01:58 PM)irukandji Wrote:(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Of course, I am serious. You are the one taking about the betrayed of trust being no big deal. As I said: Juliette had access to the email only because her boyfriend trusted her. You can’t separate betraying Kelly and Nick because the first was only possible because of the second.Well, let's go back to your statement because what you stated earlier has nothing to with what you posted above. This is what you stated:
**And why don't you give weight to the fact that Kelly is Nick's mother?**
Well, THIS is what I stated earlier:
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: And why don't you give weight to the fact that Kelly is Nick's mother? Juliette had access to the email account only because her boyfriend trusted her.
Note how you deleted the last part of the quote and claimed “what you stated earlier has nothing to with what you posted above”, when it is EXACTLY the same point, i.e. that Juliette could not betray Kelly without betraying Nick.
(01-01-2019, 01:58 PM)irukandji Wrote: Why would that deserve any weight? You're in essence stating that Nick was not his own person.
I’m not stating Nick was not his own person. I’m stating Kelly was Nick's mother. You believe it’s ok for a “girlfriend” to help kill her boyfriend’s mother?
(12-31-2018, 06:27 PM)irukandji Wrote: She worked for Renard, who according to the series, was a royal.
That’s not the same as working for the royals. From Grimm-wiki: “By blood, Renard is of the Seven Houses. However, he is not aligned with his family and markedly works against his cousin and formerly his brother”. As you should know, Kelly never worked for the royal family.
(01-01-2019, 01:58 PM)irukandji Wrote: It was Kelly who kidnapped the baby from Adalind. She talked Nick and the scoobies into it. If you want to add Renard to the mix, add him. I have no doubt, however, that anyone who disagreed with Kelly would have been killed for their opposition to her plan. You really don't think Kelly was going to let anyone prevent her from stealing Diana, do you?
Let’s talk about twisting statements. I was responding to your following statement:
(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote:(01-01-2019, 10:53 AM)irukandji Wrote: Kelly worked for the royals as well and showed up at Nick's house to.....surprise.....take the baby![…….]
Secondly, Kelly never showed up in Nicks house to take a baby. Kelly brought the baby to Nick's house twice. First time with Adalind and the second time before she was killed. It was Renard who gave the baby to the royals (to trick them), before Nick and co hijacked the car on the way to the airport.
When I responded to this, i.e. "Kelly [....] showed up at Nick's house to.....surprise.....take the baby!", as you can see from the quote, you suddenly ignored your own statement, and out of the blue start’s taking about who kidnaped Diana. My answer was about where and how. You took my respond, quoted it out of context to make it look like I was the one saying something completely incorrect. Why?
(01-01-2019, 01:58 PM)irukandji Wrote:(01-01-2019, 10:39 AM)N_grimm Wrote: Do you mean when Kelly helped Adalind and Diana escape from..... the royals? Based on what we know, Renard or the Resistance. Why would the royals pay Kelly to lose Diana?I never stated they did.
Unlike you, I was not responding to an out of context statment, but this:
(01-01-2019, 11:14 AM)irukandji Wrote:(01-01-2019, 11:12 AM)brandon Wrote: It is not true,Kelly never worked for any royal family.She didn't go to retrieve Adalind and Diana out of her own good will. Who do you think paid her to do it?
Do you remember what you told me a few days ago?
(12-31-2018, 06:27 PM)irukandji Wrote: Don't you ever read what you type?
I guess I should be asking the same question.
(01-02-2019, 10:16 PM)dicappatore Wrote: N, if you need to explain this to anyone, why even bother?I know it’s pointless, I know...