04-09-2017, 07:06 AM
(04-08-2017, 11:24 PM)GrimmenBeast Wrote:(04-08-2017, 07:32 PM)Nicholas White Wrote:(04-08-2017, 12:20 PM)GrimmenBeast Wrote:(04-08-2017, 07:01 AM)Nicholas White Wrote:(04-08-2017, 12:51 AM)GrimmenBeast Wrote: Eve's aerokinesis couldn't affect Zestorer at all, And the only reason she was able to bit it was because Zestorer was totally from other dimnension and it wouldn't be able to do anything special. If Eve would bite any other Hexenbiest they would take years to heal wounds, Even if it was Diana.
Actually, Wesen were given weapons, But Nick was able to fight against 20 Wesen together with Axe and Gun, True that he was killed but normal Hexenbiest wouldn't even survive from 10 wesen with guns.
The only reason Nick couldn't use those invisible powers was because he didn't know his true powers, And this was because of the plot because Nick would overpower every Wesen and Hexenbiest if he used those powers. Truble was a novice Grimm and she didn't know how to use those powers obviously, Kelly was unfairly "tricked" and she wasn't ready to use her true powers, and Aunt Marie was old and she still was able to overpower skilled reaper Wesen.
Also Zestorer with his evil powers couldn't kill Truble, We have seen this when it tries to attack it but even though it is super fast and it could kill Hexenbiests in second it was not able to kill Truble with it's powers, So it used ultimate powers of staff that was obviously stronger than anything shown in the show combined.
Okay I am out. I hope to the heavens you aren't trying to use the loft fight in which Nick only survived thanks to the Stick.
Also the only characters in the show that the Zestorer killed that didn't died by the stick is Adalind. Every other character from the drunk humans to Monroe and Rosalee died by the sticks hands. Are you saying that those drunk kids on the street are stronger than Hexenbiest?
So many things about your post confuse me. Zestorer being from and other world doesn't limit his powers at all. His powers come from the god like Stick.
Well actually i am using that fight to explain how strong Grimm really is, As i mentioned it's true that he died but Hexenbiests wouldn't even survive attack 10 Wesen.
Adalind would've was vulnerable to anything that normal human was. Hexenbiests have extra-ordinary abilities that is way beyond capabilities of human but those powers still not get close to powers of blood of the Grimm. And i have never said that Hexenbiests are weaker than Wesen or Human, they are weaker than Grimm's and Primordial monsters.
Zestorer's powers were obviously limited because it used Chronokinesis and Dimensional travel to see Eve, and it was still able to physically touch her even though it was in other universe.
Juilette easily overpowered Nick in the spice shop almost forcing him to Shot Monroe. Henritta causally persuaded Nick to almost kiss her by using her powers. Adalind was able to get hits on Nick although she isn't trained in Combat like Nick. Bonoporte would have killed Nick if not for the Stick. Renard easily tossed Nick through the police window at the station.
Grimms are also just as vulnerable to death as any regular human. So I don't see the point.
The Zerstorer never used Chronokinesis. He fixed the mirror but he didn't reverse time.
Juliette used her Hexenbiest magic against Nick, If Nick really wanted to kill Juliette he would shoot her right away. If Nick knew how to use power of his blood, Juliette would've been easily overpowered without her head being cut off. Again, Henritta has used her magic against Nick, Normally full-skilled Grimm would cut her head off without even waiting for her to use her magic. Adalind was easily overpowered by Nick in toe to toe fight even though it was unfair fight, Normally Grimm would take an axe against Hexenbiest to finish it without meeting any casualities. Bonaparte was the only Zauberbiest capable of stopping Grimm with normal powers, But with Nick's invisible powers he would be dead in the seconds. Nick has also easily tossed both Renard and Monroe when having the zombie virus, Grimm needs to be ready and motivated to fight the evil.
Zestorer has used chronokinesis, In its dimnesion it was 12th century and appeared in 21th century with little effort, also able to manipulate objects from other dimnesion. Every Wesen, Hexenbiest, Grimm is vulnerable to what human is vulnerable to, Zestorer is only the only exception. But Grimm's are still spiritually immortal and their blood posseses incredible powers.
Weapons aren't part of a Grimm's power so you can't use those to say they are stronger than other wesen. We are talking about internal powers not external objects.
Once again you fail to understand Chronokinesis. He never created a Dimension and he never manipulated time. The Dimension he was a resident in had similarity to the 12th century(Maybe) but it was a whole other world with different rules. Actually outside of it speaking German there was alot of differences between the other place and 12th century. We don't know what year it was there.
The only people on the show who has manipulated time is Elizabeth by freezing it and Nick by using the Stick to reset it.