04-08-2017, 07:32 PM
(04-08-2017, 12:20 PM)GrimmenBeast Wrote:(04-08-2017, 07:01 AM)Nicholas White Wrote:(04-08-2017, 12:51 AM)GrimmenBeast Wrote:(04-08-2017, 12:17 AM)Nicholas White Wrote:(04-07-2017, 11:15 PM)GrimmenBeast Wrote: Both Aunt Marie and Kelly were too old and out of their form to fight Wesen, And Nick didn't want to hurt Juliette at all. Wesen killing Grimm's was accidental and very rare moment, But Grimm's have killed thousands of Hexenbiests and Wesen in the history which explains why all of them were afraid. Of course they need to use weapons, who is generally more powerful? Human with a gun or Animal with claws and sharp teeth? Yet we have seen no Wesen, Human or Hexenbiest that can use weapons better than Grimm's. Also, That's still not my point, Grimm's are spiritually immortal, They are invisible and invincible as spirits and have defeated biggest evil with strongest item, That evil was able to control Diana (strongest Hexenbiest seen in the show) effortlessly, But not the Grimm.
Zestorer actually was directly immune to Hexenbiest powers, We have seen Juliette (stronger Hexenbiest than Adalind) trying to use her telekinesis and aerokinesis at full power against Zestorer directly but it had no effect at all on Zestorer.
So if you are proving that Hexenbiest was stronger than Zestorer, Then why didn't it use it's little magic to kill it? I am sure that Zestorer can kill any Hexenbiest.
Well i guess we need to blame the plot, However i liked the ending fight anyway, But there should've been 7 crusaders too.
Yea, No. Eve never used her magic directly on the Zestorer. All she did was use Aerokinesis to make a dust shield and Sent the bats flying back at the Zestorer. Eve also bit the Zestorer and made it bleed.
Also give any wesson a weapon and they would do the same as a grimm. That is like a professional boxer vs an old man with a Gun. The old man can kill the professional boxer but he isn't stronger than the professional boxer.
Also Grimms aren't immortal and the whole summoning of the Ancestors was a 1 time thing that Nick hasn't been shown to be able to do in every battle. Truble as a Grimm can't do it. Kelly couldn't do it when facing off against Kenneth and Neither did Aunt Marie when facing off against the wesen in the Hospital. Thus there has to be special circumstances for something like that to happen.
Also the Zestorer killed Truble with ease, who is a Grimm. Only reason the Zestorer couldn't kill Nick was the Stick he was in possession of. Being a Grimm had nothing to do with it. Without the Stick Nick would have fell as easy as the rest of them.
Eve's aerokinesis couldn't affect Zestorer at all, And the only reason she was able to bit it was because Zestorer was totally from other dimnension and it wouldn't be able to do anything special. If Eve would bite any other Hexenbiest they would take years to heal wounds, Even if it was Diana.
Actually, Wesen were given weapons, But Nick was able to fight against 20 Wesen together with Axe and Gun, True that he was killed but normal Hexenbiest wouldn't even survive from 10 wesen with guns.
The only reason Nick couldn't use those invisible powers was because he didn't know his true powers, And this was because of the plot because Nick would overpower every Wesen and Hexenbiest if he used those powers. Truble was a novice Grimm and she didn't know how to use those powers obviously, Kelly was unfairly "tricked" and she wasn't ready to use her true powers, and Aunt Marie was old and she still was able to overpower skilled reaper Wesen.
Also Zestorer with his evil powers couldn't kill Truble, We have seen this when it tries to attack it but even though it is super fast and it could kill Hexenbiests in second it was not able to kill Truble with it's powers, So it used ultimate powers of staff that was obviously stronger than anything shown in the show combined.
Okay I am out. I hope to the heavens you aren't trying to use the loft fight in which Nick only survived thanks to the Stick.
Also the only characters in the show that the Zestorer killed that didn't died by the stick is Adalind. Every other character from the drunk humans to Monroe and Rosalee died by the sticks hands. Are you saying that those drunk kids on the street are stronger than Hexenbiest?
So many things about your post confuse me. Zestorer being from and other world doesn't limit his powers at all. His powers come from the god like Stick.
Well actually i am using that fight to explain how strong Grimm really is, As i mentioned it's true that he died but Hexenbiests wouldn't even survive attack 10 Wesen.
Adalind would've was vulnerable to anything that normal human was. Hexenbiests have extra-ordinary abilities that is way beyond capabilities of human but those powers still not get close to powers of blood of the Grimm. And i have never said that Hexenbiests are weaker than Wesen or Human, they are weaker than Grimm's and Primordial monsters.
Zestorer's powers were obviously limited because it used Chronokinesis and Dimensional travel to see Eve, and it was still able to physically touch her even though it was in other universe.
Juilette easily overpowered Nick in the spice shop almost forcing him to Shot Monroe. Henritta causally persuaded Nick to almost kiss her by using her powers. Adalind was able to get hits on Nick although she isn't trained in Combat like Nick. Bonoporte would have killed Nick if not for the Stick. Renard easily tossed Nick through the police window at the station.
Grimms are also just as vulnerable to death as any regular human. So I don't see the point.
The Zerstorer never used Chronokinesis. He fixed the mirror but he didn't reverse time.