(10-09-2022, 09:35 AM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: It's that exchange where Kirk looks at the assembled dept heads and they all say "...dept ready." In the real world, this is usually each person at their station saying that into an intercom just before a final countdown or launch clearance. The team leader is not sharing information, but is looking for verification that everything that should be in place is. The difference between my test experience and your audit is that the test preparations culminate in an event involving things than can crash or explode (or both).
I know there are vast differences between my auditing experiences and your testing experiences. I never said there wasn't and if you thought I was stating otherwise, then my post was misread. It's as simple as that.
And you were the one who stated you had endless meetings. I did too, sometimes to the point of ad nauseum. Similar protocols within two vastly, vastly, VASTLY different jobs. I don't think either of us should put the other's job down just because yours might end in something exploding and mine will not.
There are a lot of things wrong with that scene that do not put it in the realm of a pre-mission meeting in my opinion.
The first is the bridge itself. While I think it's cool that the department heads gathered there, if a meeting is to take place on the bridge, then there should be accommodations for meetings. Yet the characters seem a little uncomfortable there.
You know my second issue, and if this was the last pre-mission meeting, it was not communicated to the viewer. Kirk felt he had to make a ship wide communication update, yet he doesn't have to utter a word when his department heads show up on the bridge? Mitchell called them up at Kirk's command. As a viewer, I want to know why. It certainly wasn't to hear Piper, Sulu, and Scottie confirm that all's well. And you know that this is the fabulously fake world of Star Trek, and what takes place in the real world is not what happens there.
You and I can point out our on the job experiences until the cows come home, but in the end what does it come down to? We still don't know why Kirk wants them up there. We also need to keep in mind that not all viewers have military experience. So what you encountered in your past is not what they encountered. Maybe the pat answers were enough for some of them, but for me, this is a new show. Call me picky, I like the characters to keep the audience abreast of why they do what they do.
Third issue: Mitchell's uncalled for outburst and subsequent name calling. If this was the last pre-mission meeting, I'm wondering why Mitchell feels he can interject with an off color outburst, then later follow it up with an off color insult. Dr. Dehner didn't know him and he didn't know her. I would have liked to have know why Mitchell viewed her with such loathing. These are supposed to be the best of the best on the Enterprise and he is an officer. Does becoming a helmsman allow him to say whatever he wants, especially if this is a very important meeting? Seems to me the man has a big problem with restraint. One wonders how he made it into Starfleet, much less becoming an officer to boot.
Fourth, Dehner herself. If this was actually the last pre-mission meeting, someone blew it big time. Kirk doesn't even know her. Piper has be the one to introduce her.
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