(12-25-2017, 02:34 AM)dicappatore Wrote: Question for you, Robyn. In your comment about disrespectful behavior...My comment wasn’t directed to anyone specifically, only a general statement of my disconnect with the overall negativity and aggressive responses that bog down the conversations rather than enhance them. I immediately saw several topics that peaked my interest but haven’t yet read because I immediately assumed I’d have to weed through post after post that have nothing to do with the actual conversation.
We are not moderators or hall monitors, and shouldn’t continually make it our personal responsibility to direct others in how to properly interpret the show and characters. Thinking outside the box and examining a what-if scenario that goes against the grain of the show isn’t automatically an expression of disrespect. If there are discussions or specific comments we can’t wrap our thoughts around, we can bow out of a conversation or at least refrain from posting a string of accusations that someone isn’t correctly interpreting the show and characters. Discussions either gain momentum from continued participation or die out from lack of interest.
(12-25-2017, 04:15 PM)Henry of green Wrote: Robyn I mean no desrespect but could you please inform me where exactly on this 5x18 Nick and Adalind scene clip script is Nick dismissing Adalind...Please don’t tiptoe around me. I consider your question a valid reaction, not an attack on my opinion.
The entire scene was impassive considering the subject matter was the child Nick had helped kidnap and assumed was with the Royals. However, the scene was cohesive considering the kidnapped child had been played as pretty much nonexistent in S5 up to that point.
Nick didn’t need to feel anything for Adalind beyond concern and affection for the mother of his son to have an expected demonstrative reaction to learning Diana wasn’t with the Royals, and, was currently at risk of being taken by a group as violent as the Royals. But this goes to my overall complaint about the show - G & K didn’t write the characters’ stories, they wrote their stories and plugged in the characters behaving however best propelled a scene or storyline.
(12-26-2017, 06:41 AM)irukandji Wrote: One of the issues I think was missing from the Nick/Adalind relationship was fun. While it's brief, there is a scene after Juliette dies where Nick is looking at one of her dresses, appearing to be thinking of a fun time they spent together. That never seemed to ever happen between Nick and Adalind.I’m pretty much in line with rpmaluki’s thoughts on this. Nick/Adalind didn’t have much positive interaction for Nick to reminisce about. Plus, Nick never felt that he’d lost Adalind during S5. He was focused on getting his son from Renard/BC, and although he acknowledged Adalind was in love with him, he never acted as though the woman he loved had been taken from him. It wasn’t until S6 that Nick suddenly experienced a rush of emotions and acknowledged his feelings for Adalind.
I think it was syscrash who brought up Nick’s feelings/reactions toward Juliette compared to Adalind. To me, that’s comparing apples to oranges. One relationship has a history spanning over six years that began from want/need while the other has a four-year history of violence and hatred that transitioned out of necessity and into a relationship over the course of two or less years. Nick/Adalind had a very brief relationship timeframe and a limited pool of fond memories to draw from in S6.
But. Despite the rushed progression and bad characterization/writing, I think the show used S6E7 to establish Nick/Adalind as a relationship that stood on it’s own. They behaved like a couple, like Nick/Juliette did in prior seasons. And when the spell was broken, Nick’s first and only concern was Adalind. He didn’t comfort Juliette thinking her outburst of accusations at Adalind might be genuine. In the season finale, Nick emotionally proclaimed he wanted Adalind back, Juliette was amongst wanting his friends back. Albeit last-minute, rushed, haphazard and heavy-handed, the show established Nick/Adalind in S6. I think if anything, G & K wanted to ensure that Juliette wasn’t disrespected by Nick/Adalind, but in the end, they failed to understand and express the validity of the three characters and both relationships.
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