12-29-2017, 12:09 PM
(12-29-2017, 05:36 AM)Henry of green Wrote: Izzy, you can believe she’s just as manipulative as she always has been if you wish but it doesn’t match up to what we were shown in the last 2 seasons.
(12-29-2017, 10:16 AM)Hell Rell Wrote: @izzy, I really think you're ignoring what actually happened on the show to project your own beliefs on to it. The whole "Adalind was running a con" theory is one of the most unfounded theories on the forum. You're not taking Adalind's character development into consideration at all. It's the same as people saying Juliette was slumming with Nick when there was never anything on the show to support it.
I can understand how both of you arrived at your viewpoint in regard to my commentary but here is the real issue.
This: "You're not taking Adalind's character development into consideration at all "
That is actually the issue. I do not see the character development. You have, in Adalind, one of the more despicable creatures who ever walked the earth, a creature who uses guile and chicanery they way other people use oxygen.
Let’s review a few characteristics we were told of Hexenbiests (I grabbed these off the Internet somewhere) but it is accurate as I remember how they were conveyed in the show.
- ”They can create illusions”
- ”have the ability to harness seductive powers on others who are within their immediate proximity.”
- “They work at the command of royalty and are extremely loyal creatures, but they are only loyal to whomever they serve, as to others they are treacherous and manipulative, even to their own kind.”
- “When dealing with Hexenbiests, it is important to not get on their bad side, as they seldom forgive and are capable of exacting their revenge in multiple ways that never end well for their offender”
So when dealing with Adalind you never know if what you believe you are seeing is true as she can cast illusions and influence the people around her. Note the defining characteristics, ”treacherous and manipulative”.
But here is the real gem:
Adalind offered up her own baby in exchange to getting her Hexenbiest powers back and even threatened to murder the baby if her powers were not returned. Note at this time she is no longer a Hexenbiest, she is a human. Where is this nice version of Adalind at? She is not longer a Hexenbiest, she is free of it and its grip on her then. So a few seasons later in the same situation we are suddenly suppose to believe what, that she never wanted to be a Hexenbiest? It is totally incongruent. What is congruent is Adalind remained how Adalind always was and remained the manipulative. Treacherous person she always has been.
The trouble with is with the writing of the series. The created a creature in the form of Adalind who threatened to murder her own child in order to become a Hexenbiest again when she was a human. As I said, there are none of the major steps in place that normally mark a person’s transition, there is very little evidence except people’s perception with a creature who art and craft is manipulating people;s perceptions. The writers rather painted themselves into a corner with Adalind. As I said we already did the human Adalind once and guess what she wanted her powers back. Now we are suddenly suppose to believe it is different?
So no, I saw no character development because of the very nature of the character the writers had established. What is far more congruent is all we saw is exactly what Adalind wanted us to see, because that is what she always was and always will be, a creature who manipulates her environment to her end.
So that is my vantage point. The problem is not with my perception, but rather the fact I remember the character of both the creature and the person the writers introduced us to in the form of Adalind.
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