That's irresponsible of Nick to do as a cop and as a Grimm to demand it wait until tomorrow after she insisted on meeting now. When cops get calls of emergency they leave their wives and children behind to attend to their jobs, why expect Nick to do any less is truly shocking to me. Whatever Nick's feelings about working with Eve, he put it all aside because more important things were happening. He came because he trusted that what she had to tell him really couldn't wait only to discover that it really could have waited for tomorrow, so I don't see how he's at "fault" here.
I didn't see any jealousy from either woman about Nick's activities because neither had the right to demand loyalty from Nick after their history with him.
I didn't see any jealousy from either woman about Nick's activities because neither had the right to demand loyalty from Nick after their history with him.
(11-21-2016, 08:45 PM)izzy Wrote:wonderful post by the way but I don't think the show is as deep in fleshing out the dynamic between Nick and Adalind as you have.(11-20-2016, 03:28 PM)irukandji Wrote: So you think sex with Adalind completely masked Nick's grief that she killed Marie? ....
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...Could Nick really forget what Adalind did to Hank simply by having sex with her?
I do not think he totally forgot, as in it is erased from his long term memory but i do think it is out of his short term memory and emotional felling bank at this point. Combine this with the wesen of the week, HW and BC, Juliette + eve drama and a baby, and i think he has in many ways divorced himself from those thoughts and emotions.
Plus, based on how the character of nick manifests itself on the screen, I would suggest that nick has some sort of emotional chemistry imbalance. he runs hot and cold with allowing his emotions to overwhelm any logic he may or may not possess. One direct example (in terms of this thread) is his getting caught up in th excitement of being a daddy and not considering the obvious questionable paternity issue.
So more or less,with a few hedges, yep I think Nick, for various reasons, has suppressed those memories and emotions. And a little nookie probably went a long way with him.
irukandji Wrote:Izzy you mentioned earlier that Nick's friends were probably more associates than friends. I wanted to ask what you thought about his relationship with Hank. I have never held a job where a peer actually held my life in his/her hands. That would not be the case with Hank and Nick. They are partners and have to look out for the life of the other.
In short i think Nick (to me an emotional cripple) thinks Hank is his best friend and Hank probably thinks of Nick as a buddy in the same way he thinks of Wu.
My limited understanding is there generally is very different relationship between standard patrol officers and detectives. Generally a patrol officer’s partner is more of a I physically got your back kind or relationships (the life in your hands thing you alluded to) and a detectives partner is more a I got your back politically when it comes to building a case on an individual verse other suspects. My understanding is police detectives are very seldom involved in the more life threatening aspects of police work except as back-up when in the vicinity.
Another point is each department is different but in the departments I know of extremely tight relationships between partners are discouraged. Generic friendships are encouraged but most departments I know deliberately rotate partners to keep too deep of a relationship from forming. In addition they very seldom allow tight personal friends to work together except incidentally. For example two of my students are very tight friends. They go on vacations, go to the bars together, but they have never actually been allowed to work together other than incidentally.
irukandji Wrote:Why do you think Adalind is manipulating Nick?
There is an old saying, men give love to get sex, and women give sex to get love. That has changed a bit over the last few decades to an extent, but the basic equation remains the same. When women tend to initiate first time sex with a man they are interested in (for whatever reason) they are using it to try an evoke an deeper emotional response in the male.
So when I say Adalind was playing Nick, I meant she wanted to evoke a stronger emotional bond from Nick’s end toward her and used her feminine attributes to do so, among those showing a vulnerability so the big strong male would feel all manly in his role as protector, she threw in some sex so he wouldn’t feel like such a chump and to created a deeper bond between them. Then she went full frontal domestic on him…I doubt Adalind was so turned on by Nicks’ masculine persona that she could no longer contain herself – LOL.
So in terms of playing Nick, I mean she was deliberately going out of her way to assist him in developing a level of feelings toward her. I mean the whole of I am scared to be alone crap, given this is Adalind the one who went through what exactly to get her Hexenbeist powers back? She is now afraid of the dark? Come on. She wasn’t a Hexenbeist then and she was not afraid…and suddenly now she is a defenseless kitten? So yep, I think she played him.