(07-30-2016, 07:34 PM)syscrash Wrote: With Eve and Adalind working together. It would be ability against experience.Your scenario works within the concept of the show because there’s no counterbalance between characters and their actions/reasoning. The show purposely avoided Adalind experiencing any of the logical and expected fears of having a child with Nick. While I agree Nick would now have this fear with Adalind, they both should have had this fear from day one. Instead, Adalind won’t forgive Renard for giving away their daughter while loving the man who helped him deceive her and Nick feared Adalind knowing about the stick and the tunnel expansion while never expressing the slightest suspicion that Adalind might leave with Kelly.
Logic would say no matter how Nick accepts that Adalind did what she had to. It is now established, if they get back together. Adalind can no longer say she would never take Kelly from him.
It is one thing to forgiving her for reacting to something he did. He can rationalize don't piss her off and she won't attack. But when her actions are the result of something he can;t control. He will always wonder is today I come home and they are gone. That does not mean they won't get back together. But like he was uneasy about her prior acts. This just adds more to his unwillingness to commit to Adalind.
(07-30-2016, 07:34 PM)syscrash Wrote: There is one question no one has suggested. What is to stop him from going to the mansion and taking Kelly with him. If Eve is on his right and Trubel is on the left. what is going to stop him. Does anyone really see Sean risking his life to keep Nick from taking Kelly. For that matter if Nick becomes a big problem trying to get Kelly. Why would he not just take him to Nick. Unless Adalind uses Diana to defend against anyone from taking Kelly. What could she possibly do. that would not get her killed. Season four Juleitte had reservations. I no longer see Eve having reservations about doing what she feels needed to be done.This scenario always works within the concept of the show - Nick rushing in head first never concerned with the possible fallout. Nick wanted to do this is S5, but at the time Eve & Trubel were taking their orders from Meisner who wouldn’t allow a foolish mission fueled by emotions. Now that Meisner’s gone will Eve & Trubel forget their training as HW operatives - complete your mission by understanding your enemy and working within those parameters? Eve would know that Renard will be expecting/prepared for Nick to make a move and that Diana could at least create a difficult/dangerous barrier to penetrate.
Renard won’t risk his life, but he’d do whatever is necessary to keep the one person Nick isn’t willing to risk, which would be the logical reason for him not to return Kelly to Nick. Once Nick had Kelly, there wouldn’t be a reason not to attack full force because there wouldn’t be anyone left in the house Nick cares about.
The only way Diana wouldn’t intervene is if the show utilizes it’s go-to method with the character - Diana inexplicably doesn’t use her powers. Otherwise, Diana would counter Eve’s Hexenbiest powers. And unless the show has Adalind so in love/obsessed with Nick she would sacrifice her daughter, Adalind would defend any attack on Diana - even from Nick.
So while I think your assessment is a very likely route the show would take - Nick, Eve & Trubel walking in, tossing everyone around like papier-mâché, and taking Kelly without any Team Grimm casualties - it isn’t a logical or believable scenario.
(07-30-2016, 09:01 PM)syscrash Wrote: Kwu9888 wrote: these two people have been psychically bonded together it seems from actual first few minutes of the pilot.Maybe wrong, but I didn’t think Kwu9888 meant Nick/Adalind was a predestined love, but rather, Nick & Adalind’s lives have been intertwined since the pilot episode. Which it has. Those two can’t stay away from each other despite their best efforts. Whether you want to get lost inside the story and call it fate or take an objective approach and call it writer’s prerogative, events have constantly forced Nick & Adalind into each others’ lives.
How do you draw the inference that because he looked at a hot blond on the street they have a connection. How is it that Nick sleeping with Adalind makes for them having a relationship. I have even seen post saying because Eve sleep with Sean there is reason they could be a couple. Even with Meisner people try and ship him with Adalind. Even though every time we have seen them together. The most we have seen is his concern for her and her child.
It is amazing how the simplest of actions people instantly see a relationship. Adalind has made numerious advances toward Nick. No once has he reciprocated the interest. Sleeping with Adalind is not reciprocating interest, that is lust. The same as Eve with Sean, Eve with Kenneth, Adalind with Sean, Adalind with Eric.
If Kwu9888 meant predestined love that’s okay too, I just misunderstood. Many fans ship their favorite couples, and shouldn’t be berated for it because another viewer doesn’t get into shipping or understand why they enjoy it.
That said, based on how the show portrays character interaction and relationships, it’s completely reasonable the show considers Nick & Adalind’s unhealthy, distrustful, and unfulfilling interaction to be a relationship.
If it’s not a relationship, someone should correct DG’s statement to interviewers that Nick is in love with Adalind. It gives N/A shippers false hope.
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