11-23-2015, 03:39 PM
(11-23-2015, 03:22 PM)GrimmsterAla Wrote:(11-23-2015, 02:48 PM)grimmfan14 Wrote: You don't agree Juliette's actions were worse than Adelind?! She's responsible for Kelly's head getting cut off? Trying to kill Monroe?
No matter what happens, no matter how sorry she is, I cannot imagine a way in which Nick can ever get over the things that Juliette said or did as a hexenbeist. Bringing the Royals to come for Kelly/Diana was a bridge too far.
To be fair, neither Hexenbiest is/was an angel.
Adalind was responsible for (fully or in part):
-The attack on Aunt Marie, and her death.
-Hank's love obsession and coma, which could have lead to death. (Including Wu eating coins and the carpet.) Which A used to try and blackmail Nick into giving her the Key.
-Juliette's cat scratch illness/coma/memory wipe. Which totally messed with everyone. An obsessed Renard. And it was a gut punch to Nick.
-Renard getting the key, before he returned it.
-De-Grimming Nick which was dangerous for them all, a gut punch to Juliette and ended with a pregnant Adalind. Oh and Juliette as a Hexenbiest.
-A siding with the Royals, again, and bringing Kenneth to Portland.
Juliette was responsible for (fully or in part):
-Asking Renard for help instead of the Scoobies.
-Sleeping with Renard. (Not sure that counts.)
-Burning the trailer.
-Attacking the Scoobies in the spice shop.
-Sleeping with Kenneth. (Not sure that counts.)
-Siding with the Royals, and Kenneth.
-Luring Kelly to her death.
-Kidnapping Diana.
-Trying to kill Nick.
Am i missing any bad deeds?
I am of the camp that what Juliette did was worse, no matter the actual deeds, because she was ONE of them. One of the Scoobies. A friend, a lover, a family member. IMO that is worse. But just IMO. Adalind was just a nemesis turned reluctant ally. The standards for her are lower. LMAO.
As for Nick forgiving Juliette, I believe that he truly could. She was the love of his life and he is mostly responsible for what happened to her. I believe that he would at least try and forgive her. It wouldn't be easy. It wouldn't be fun. But Nick would try. If not for himself or the new Juliette, then for the old Juliette and the life that they shared and life they could have had.
They both did horrible things. My point is that people want to only judge Adelind for her choices. But with Juliette, they talk about the hexen spirit and have no choice. It goes both ways.
I think it would be strange writing for this show to put Nick and Juliette back together. They've never really done a great job of convincing the audience that they were some epic love that could overcome anything. In fact, they couldn't overcome some things, the consequences of Nick being a Grimm and all that came from that being the main one.
I think Nick would want to try, sure, but I wonder if they could overcome the betrayals they felt while in love. I would really wonder at the point of these last couple of seasons too. I'm sure adelind's defense would be that she never had a reason NOT to do what she did. Nick was a Grimm and they weren't her friends. They were her enemies, and in the end they stole her child. She had no obligation or reason to choose any other way, unlike Juliette.
I think what happened with Juliette is going to get flipped on its head when Adelind's powers come back. That's probably the drama that all of this is leading to.