09-09-2020, 05:58 AM
(09-09-2020, 05:18 AM)dicappatore Wrote:Oh I knew from back in S1 they would (or rather should) not make it because once Nick became a Grimm, they became ill suited for one another it didn't matter what Juliette knew or didn't know. The writers seemed bent on showing problems between them than not but I still figured they would force the issue of keeping them together because they started the show as a couple (it's rare for couples to end up broken up at the end of the show) but to my surprise they actually broke them up, I felt vindicated in my belief.(09-08-2020, 11:49 PM)rpmaluki Wrote:As I was watching the series, season 2 was a good assessment on how the relationship of Nick and Juliette was heading to. Once her memories of Nick were removed from Juliette's conscious state. We saw a Juliette with no interest to get back with Nick. I am talking about the Juliette we saw after the effect of the kiss waking up the sleeping beauty portion kicked in. I am talking about the Juliette reaction to Nick, episodes before her loins were hot for Sean Renard kicked in. To me, it seamed as if Nick was being a burdensome on her lifestyle.(09-05-2020, 08:35 AM)irukandji Wrote: Nick owed Adalind for going through with her part of their bargain, which was supplying the suppression potion. It was his turn to honor her terms, which was provide protection for her and her baby from Juliette. Even when Juliette became Eve, I don't believe there was any set time where Adalind was relaxed enough to let down her guard and inform Nick that he no longer needed to protect her. If I remember correctly, it was Eve who threatened her if she ever hurt Nick. If Adalind was as afraid of Juliette as she claimed, she wouldn't ignore such a threat from Eve.I cannot say I "knew" something would have happened at her job before it actually did. As far as I was concerned, she was getting back some sort of normalcy for herself then Bonaparte showed up. Eve was a threat to her in S5 not in S6. How or what brought Nick and Adalind together doesn't negate that they did in fact fall in love with one another, it stands to reason that they would continue to be together regardless of their circumstances. And we've already seen that Adalind's job situation was something easily remedied and if she did it once nothing stops her from doing it again once Diana was settled.
While Adalind did get her old job back, I think the audience knew something was going to happen and she would shortly lose that job. There's no excitement for the audience having to watch the boss looking happily on while Adalind works at her job with baby Kelly at her side. Adalind still hasn't made any prospects for herself, so the only alternative for her is to stay with Nick.
I often wonder how different the series would have been had the producers written the baby out, as they originally intended. Putting a baby in was a huge detriment to Adalind's potential.
I can't speak to what the show would have been like had they not written in the actress' pregnancy other than they were already intentional in getting Nick and Adalind to have sex in the first place (before Claire's pregnancy), to what end? I don't know. I imagine having the male lead between two beautiful women was too good to pass for these writers, who's to say the show wouldn't have ended exactly as it did with Nick and Adalind but no baby Kelly?
For whatever reason, some seem to ignore that Nick and Juliette's relationship wasn't all sunshine and roses in the first half of S4 before we found out about Adalind's pregnancy. The problems they faced at that time were very much internal, the whole Nick being a Grimm thing. It may not be much for some but for me, it was more than enough to show me that the relationship was doomed to fail. They had diverging wants and needs. It just happened sooner and faster than I expected at that point because of Juliette become an raging Hexenbiest having given Nick what he wanted.
I remember the scene when she is out on a "girl's night out" and Nick reaches out to her when he got home from work and she wasn't there. That took place before she got the hots for the captain. To me, this Juliette was way more the real underlining reason why Juliette rejected his 1st proposal.
My above statement was framed around the events surrounding Nick and Adalind sleeping together and then having baby Kelly. Some believe without Kelly, Nick and Juliette would have gone on to live happily ever after and this is false, not because of anything Adalind did or didn't do. Nick and Juliette were inherently a dysfunctional couple from the pilot onward, it doesn't matter how well meaning or "good" they both were as people. The bad far outweighs the good between them.
I think S4 was very experimental in how far the writers could push things and they pushed it way, way too far and whatever their original intentions with hexenbiest Juliette, viewers wholly rejected her, that plot and I imagine it became even more obvious to them how those same viewers rejected the character of Juliette as Nick's mate (regardless of the actors real life relationship), so S4 was them crossing a point of return. The writers had to follow through with their choices and Adalind with Nick became more of a viable option for them and ironically, they did better with those two as a couple, despite the mountain of baggage from their past history together. They should not have worked but these same writers who couldn't write Nick and Juliette (for four seasons) to save their lives made Nick and Adalind work (in two seasons).