Diana had drawings of a blonde woman (assuming it was Adalind) and a Grimm fairy tales book in her room from the location with the dead people looking after her. She definitely identified with both Adalind and Kelly before ending up with BC and eventually Renard. To what varying extent is the issue.
I think when Black Claw nabbed Diana, she turned out to be much more than they could handle, so they brought in Sean. Even then, a child would have many questions. The only one I know who could explain the situation to Diana would be Sean.
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(12-02-2020, 05:19 PM)irukandji Wrote:(12-02-2020, 04:54 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: He had Meisner and Sebastian helping him before that. Renard managed to remain likeable…? You even blame Claire… but if you're right and Renard was supposed to “remain likeable”, Sasha failed completely. But he did not, because what you claim goes against EVERYTING the character represented. We have no idea if Catherine liked Renard or she just slept with him because she was in debt to him. She obviously did not bother to inform that he would become obsessed. We have absolutely no idea if Henrietta liked Renard. Renard said she had a lot more knowledge than his mother but did not know how old she was. They were probably just acquaintances, since he did not know her very well. That his mother liked him is obvious so what's that supposed to prove? As a general rule: supporting characters who spend a few minutes on screen in total, never provide enough information for us to know their motives. Adalind, Nick and Hank neither liked nor trusted Renard. I could add Monroe, Rosalee, Juliette/Eve, Wu, Trubel and Bud. Adalind: Have you told him [Renard] where we live? Nick: No. Adalind: You don't trust him, either. Nick: Not always. --- Trubel: I thought Meisner was Renard's friend. Why would he do this? Nick: Sean Renard has no friends. --- Bud: That guy [Renard] is a dick. To list all examples would take all day.
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(12-09-2020, 01:04 PM)irukandji Wrote: I think when Black Claw nabbed Diana, she turned out to be much more than they could handle, so they brought in Sean. Even then, a child would have many questions. The only one I know who could explain the situation to Diana would be Sean. It would seem from what we saw onscreen that Diana was reasonably manageable as long as she thought whoever had her was taking care of her for her mommy and daddy or was bringing her to them. There was nothing in the HW house that suggested she had made any trouble there, and she seemed peaceful enough in BC's custody until the moment they tried taking her away from her reunion with Adalind. Sean always struck me as pretty clueless about explaining anything to Diana. He'd be the last person I'd think of for that.
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My thought is that if Diana was that manageable, Black Claw wouldn't have turned her over to Renard so quickly.
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(12-09-2020, 04:00 PM)irukandji Wrote: My thought is that if Diana was that manageable, Black Claw wouldn't have turned her over to Renard so quickly.The whole point was to use Diana to get Adalind. Renard was to appear as a family man. BC hardly knew that she had all these powers, and had no known ties to the royal family. (12-09-2020, 04:07 PM)N_grimm Wrote:(12-09-2020, 04:00 PM)irukandji Wrote: My thought is that if Diana was that manageable, Black Claw wouldn't have turned her over to Renard so quickly.The whole point was to use Diana to get Adalind, who Renard would use to appear as a family man. BC hardly knew that she had all these powers. It doesn't work if Diana has no idea why Adalind hasn't been there for her. There has to be someone around who can fill her in on the details. The only person who can do that is Renard.
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(12-09-2020, 04:13 PM)irukandji Wrote:Diana was not an ordinary child. We never saw Renard explain anything. She immediately knew who Adalind was. She immediately knew who he was too. She even knew that Eve was Nick's ex-girlfriend. I doubt anyone had told her that. Fill her in on the details? The last thing Renard wanted was for Diana to know all the details. It included him giving her away, because he was too self-absorbed to leave Portland and go into hiding with Adalind and the child.(12-09-2020, 04:07 PM)N_grimm Wrote:(12-09-2020, 04:00 PM)irukandji Wrote: My thought is that if Diana was that manageable, Black Claw wouldn't have turned her over to Renard so quickly.The whole point was to use Diana to get Adalind, who Renard would use to appear as a family man. BC hardly knew that she had all these powers. (12-09-2020, 04:38 PM)N_grimm Wrote: Diana was not an ordinary child. We never saw Renard explain anything. She immediately knew who Adalind was. She immediately knew who he was too. She even knew that Eve was Nick's ex-girlfriend. I doubt anyone had told her that. Fill her in on the details? The last thing Renard wanted was for Diana to know all the details. It included him giving her away, because he was too self-absorbed to leave Portland and go into hiding with Adalind and the child. I don't recall saying she was an ordinary child. However, you're attributing extraordinary powers of recognition to a child who, before Renard took over the care of her, did absolutely nothing to contact this mother that you claim she immediately knew. As for Renard going into hiding with Adalind and Diana, that was never going to occur. Kelly's delusions of grandeur as Diana's self-proclaimed savior prevented even Adalind from going into hiding.
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BC wanted Diana to use as a bargaining chip to draw Renard and Adalind in. They had no idea what she was actually capable of until she started ripping warehouses apart and smothered her daddy's bedmate in her sheets.
Diana was drawing pictures of her hexenbiest mommy in the house where HW was keeping her, so she knew at least something of her family before she was reunited with them. She had spent at least a year with Kelly without killing her, and if Diana remembered all the way back to the night Nick and Kelly pulled her and her parents out of her daddy's condo and hid them from her grandfather's killer minions, that could only have helped give Kelly credibility in her eyes. So assuming that anyone told her about her mommy and daddy, that's who it would most likely have been. |
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