I don't have said she isn't a member of the scoobie gang. It was nice that she wanted to go with them. But Nick doesn't wanted it. I like Adalind actually. Not so much as Juliette/Eve but I like her. I just have a problem with "Nadalind" itself. The relationship isn't healthy. For both of them. Special Not Nick.
I have to tell you, Tara: I really like reading your perspective on Nick and Adalind. I originally was inclined to agree with you, but then I also took the outlook that Adalind and Nick deserved one another. I have since paid much closer attention to Adalind and I like her outlook on putting her children first. It seems for all intensive purposes that she was intent on doing just that. However, particularly with regard to this season, it seems she puts Nick first more often than her children.
My impression of the living arrangements is that Adalind has not positively changed from living with Nick. He hasn't encouraged her to think for herself beyond the box, so to speak. In other words, he's content having her there, this mousy little person who isn't going to cause him any problems.
One thing I noticed and I don't know if it's happened more than once, but it did happen during last week's episode. Monroe made some kind of off the wall comment about Eve and Nick being together. The camera quickly panned to Adalind, who clearly was not happy with Monroe's comment. Monroe quickly changed the comment to past tense.
From Adalind's point of view, this has to be something that sticks in her craw. After all of this time, some of the scoobies still look upon Nick and Juliette/Eve as a couple.
It was during the scene in the loft bathroom. Monroe said Eve and Nick were extremely connected (or something like it). Adalind didn't react at all (her expression and posture don't change), Nick twitched uncomfortably but Rosalee was the one who's unimpressed reaction, when he turned to look in her direction, made Monroe a quite embarrassed because it seemed to say to him he just put his foot in his mouth, so he quickly turned away from her and stared at the wall.
That's the way I remember it as well. Adalind didn't react at all even though I expected her to like Juliette has on several occasions this season when either her or Adalind's relationship with Nick was mentioned. Adalind asking Nick about where their first kiss was is one example.
In fact, I think one of the things the show did right this season was not have Adalind act jealous in Juliette's presence or whenever she was mentioned. I haven't seen any sign of that this season.
Yes, this season Eve's the one affected by Nick's relationship with Adalind, not the other way round. We've seen and heard Eve talk about it to Diana.
(05-02-2017, 08:15 AM)Hell Rell Wrote: Yes, this season Eve's the one affected by Nick's relationship with Adalind, not the other way round. We've seen and heard Eve talk about it to Diana.
Eve has renew her friendship with Nick and gotten to know and accept help from Adalind and spent time with the kids which has a good side to it.
Women characters do not have to be having sex with the lead to be important to the story.
(03-24-2017, 12:32 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Monroe was turned toward Rosalee and Eve at the time he said that, and away from Adalind and Nick. Eve stared right at him, Rosalee did that, "you didn't actually say that" look, and then he turned toward Adalind and Nick, both of whom appeared to be doing their best to look unaffected by it.
And that's my point. The camera panned to Adalind who clearly was bothered by it. I'm not saying she was jealous or she flew into a rage, there was nothing like that. I'm just saying something like that would stick in her craw because it's apparent at least some of the scoobies aren't looking at Nick and her as a couple. Monroe wouldn't have quickly compensated if Adalind (or even Nick) had stepped in and told him not to worry about it.
ETA: I don't remember Ever there. I thought she'd already gone into the mirror in the previous episode.
It didn't pan to Adalind, both Nick and Adalind are in the frame, you can easily see which of the two was most affected by Monroe's words. It was Nick. Adalind simply carried on with what they were discussing until Diana interrupts them and gives them more details and tells them they aren't ready to face this monster.
The scoobies have been treating Nick and Adalind as a couple for a while now. It started in S5.
The statement was thoughtless, Monroe didn't mean anything by it beyond the stick healing both Nick and Eve. So why should they make an issue out of it when it was nothing more than a careless mistake from a friend who should have counted his words before he spoke? Monroe looked away guilty after he saw his wife's scolding stare as the light bulb finally came on and realised he'd just made a faux pas.
You say Nick was more affected by the words and Face in the Crowd says neither one was affected.
Everyone is affected to some degree because it's still an awkward issue. Monroe realizes he put his foot in his mouth. But I don't think it's really highlighting anything more than a generalized tension. We never hear any conversation amongst the rest of team Grimm about the Nick/Adalind/Eve dynamic, so one can only speculate on the way they see it. Like us, they're viewing it from the outside. Actually, in some respects, from an even greater remove. Each character relates to it differently and Monroe has always been good at saying the most glaringly pointed thing. Adalind doesn't react much, because I think she's made some peace with it. That particular elephant in the room, had been sleeping on a cot outside her bedroom door for about about a month. (Man, I really want to know more about that whole situation.) Adalind is certainly not oblivious to the changes in Eve and how that's probably affecting Nick, but she never seems perturbed by it in the least. I think she simply trusts Nick fully and cares about Eve. She feels a burden of responsibility for Eve, and it compels her to look after her. So all of this stuff is like water off a duck's back. Eve is simply uncomfortable with any emotional issue. Particularly this one. She's been actively trying to avoid feeling too much of anything. Not because she wants to get between Nick and Adalind, but because she remembers where an excess of feeling once led her. Nick is always taciturn, so it's often hard to judge his responses, but he's mostly uncomfortable because he's standing between his ex and girlfriend when Monroe brings this up. That's never less than awkward. I would love to know how the rest of team Grimm views this dynamic though. Do they have conversations about it when those three aren't around?
Monroe and Nick do not seem to be wide open, when it comes to talking about your feelings. Monroe has joined Adalind. Although he did not like him- the gestures he made before Elizabeth- nor thought very well of the "Dameonfeuer". Although he does not know the kiss stolen of Nick and Ariel.
Nor the bed scene.
Although I think Nick did not tell him everything.
(05-02-2017, 08:15 AM)Hell Rell Wrote: Yes, this season Eve's the one affected by Nick's relationship with Adalind, not the other way round. We've seen and heard Eve talk about it to Diana.
Eve has renew her friendship with Nick and gotten to know and accept help from Adalind and spent time with the kids which has a good side to it.
That happened over the course of the season. It's true once the second half of the season comes around but she was showing cracks early in the season which is why they kept having reaction shots of her like when she was in the tunnel and Nick said he thought he was going to go crazy without Adalind and when Adalind asked Nick where their first kiss was when she cut off Juliette.
That being said, there was never any animosity and she's completely fine with her life. She did what she could to contribute to the good fight. I'm not saying she was a jealous harpy.