(04-14-2017, 08:40 AM)Purity Wrote: I will like here to add - Are some of you here not aware that from S1 to S6, the Grimm makers and NBC do have pro specialist of survey teams who work specifically on this by gathering numbers and figures and opinions from the viewers (being key)? Just because G&K came out openly to do thier own survey in S6 does not mean they were never on track with this. It does not mean that they have not been monitoring before in past seasons, they certainly have, only these people you do not see or hear of as they could be independant parties on contract for the Marketing Survey Team.

(04-14-2017, 09:27 AM)Purity Wrote: Yes, Major companies work with number of sites, many of which are not official partners but are given what they call "incentives package" (cheaper this way, less cost for the Main company requesting the survey). These sites we will or may never know because of the incentive part.
The Main company has it own surveys ofcourse but they make collections from non-official partnered and official partnered sites to get the total.

So when you find yourself ticking "Adalind & Nick" on a poll question in a non-partnered site like - Which couple do you favour? You need to remember that some of these sites do have incentives for collecting data and sending them off to the main company like NBC.

(04-14-2017, 10:49 AM)Devegs Wrote: I always believed that N&J's relationship would end because of aunt Marie's warning in S1E1 and Nick keeping becoming a grimm secret from Juliette. I kept waiting for the relationship to end in some form of tragedy since the start of Grimm and was surprised that it went on for as long as it did, IMO. I had thought the writer's would go for a solo Nick/grimm at some point. However, I don't know when they started thinking about getting N&A together in a relationship. Certainly not from the onset because I doubt that they would have known that and gone for the Hank and Adalind sex spell. But then what do I know?

(04-14-2017, 12:10 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: If G&K took any guidance from dueling shippers in Grimm's audience, it was probably to keep some uncertainty in the Nick-Juliette-Adalind relationship/s until they knew they were doing the last episodes to keep both sides watching as long as they could.

(04-14-2017, 12:21 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 10:49 AM)Devegs Wrote: I always believed that N&J's relationship would end because of aunt Marie's warning in S1E1 and Nick keeping becoming a grimm secret from Juliette. I kept waiting for the relationship to end in some form of tragedy since the start of Grimm and was surprised that it went on for as long as it did, IMO. I had thought the writer's would go for a solo Nick/grimm at some point. However, I don't know when they started thinking about getting N&A together in a relationship. Certainly not from the onset because I doubt that they would have known that and gone for the Hank and Adalind sex spell. But then what do I know?

G&K claimed in interviews that they did not know about Nadalind early on. In general, they admit they do not plan ahead that much. I like to point out the idea was not new for them.

In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Spike (a vampire) tried to rape Buffy in a bathroom in "Seeing Red" and she was injured but fought him off. Spite felt guilty about it so he went on a quest to get his soul for Buffy and when he came back he became Buffy's lover and they became a popular couple on the show. Spike died a hero in the series finale and came back to life for the show Angel.

KATE HAKALA

1. SPIKE (JAMES MARSTERS)

It's that glint in his eyes when he looks at Buffy, that devilish lilt in his voice as he offhandedly calls Buffy "love." It's that heart-wrenching, "No you don't, but thanks for saying it," after Buffy finally confesses her love for him. Spike was always so much more than just a Big Bad. He was easily the most compelling character on the show. While I had some real reservations (the potential rape scene is sickening and haunting) about naming Spike the #1 love interest of Buffy, I also know there could be no other. The entire Buffy series thrived off of moral ambiguity, and Spike and Buffy's relationship excelled in the gray area. If Buffy wanted a little monster in her man, she found it in him. Plus, Buffy and Spike's flavor of passionate, super strength sex is unparalleled. We'll take Spike, peroxide, drunkenness, kitten-gambling and all.

KATE HAKALA

http://www.nerve.com/entertainment/ranked/ranked-buffys-boyfriends-from-buffy-the-vampire-slayer

https://www.buzzfeed.com/caitlinjinks/ranking-the-greatest-couples-from-buffy-the-vampir-mfzs?utm_term=.vuYoD33DAL#.qwA0w99w7o

(04-14-2017, 12:23 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: Not having a main character chose who they want, it's a tactic used to keep fans from both sides watching in the hopes that their favourite wins. The writers weren't immune to this diseased form of writing.

(04-14-2017, 12:25 PM)Tara Wrote: Please do not compare Spuffy with Nadalind - there is a big difference between these couples...

(04-14-2017, 12:23 PM)rpmaluki Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 12:10 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: If G&K took any guidance from dueling shippers in Grimm's audience, it was probably to keep some uncertainty in the Nick-Juliette-Adalind relationship/s until they knew they were doing the last episodes to keep both sides watching as long as they could.

Hence "triangles" aren't just geometric shapes any more only discussed in mathematics classes. Not having a main character chose who they want, it's a tactic used to keep fans from both sides watching in the hopes that their favourite wins. The writers weren't immune to this diseased form of writing. For months before the season aired, almost all the articles went on about "who will Nick chose". However I feel the writers were talking out of both sides of their mouths, playing up the triangle one minute and shooting it down the next.

(04-14-2017, 12:37 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote:

(04-14-2017, 12:23 PM)rpmaluki Wrote: Not having a main character chose who they want, it's a tactic used to keep fans from both sides watching in the hopes that their favourite wins. The writers weren't immune to this diseased form of writing.

It's SOP for commercial TV. The sole driving rule is to get the highest rating possible so the network can charge more for advertising time. If focus groups pointed unavoidably to a massive audience desire to see clowns in tiny cars, there would be such a character in every series on your screen.

(04-14-2017, 12:10 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Polls are done to determine numbers of people who hold a given preference. If you were a Nadalind shipper, for example, you could have written a simple, "I prefer Adalind," or a 500-page essay on how Juliette was the most heinous female character in the history of TV and Bitsie was the least talented actor in same, and it would still have been recorded in the results as "one vote for Adalind."