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RE: S6E13 - The End - irukandji - 04-01-2017
So if Nick wished for them all alived and time was reset back, why wasn't Adalind wearing the ring?
RE: S6E13 - The End - rpmaluki - 04-01-2017
He wasn't going back in time, as that would only take them back to the original moment with Zerstörer coming through the mirror. Nick wished only to revive his friends (without the ring he took off Adalind's finger and Eve, with the hexenbiest she missed added for good measure) and the staff did that without undoing Zerstörer's death. The staff is self-conscious, at the most it's in tune with the user's wishes/desires and executes them even without Nick voicing them specifically.
RE: S6E13 - The End - syscrash - 04-01-2017
Adalind was not wearing the ring for the same reason why zerstorer is dead. Why Diana was not standing in front of the Mirror with the stick while Sean and Adalind where holding her back.
His wish was to correct what was lost. Not to do it all over again. That is why Eve has her hexenbiest back. The polices station is back. Plus he does not have to answer question about what happened because no one remembers. except Diana. Had they remember There would be regret and remorse.
The one bad thing Sean apology never happened. Nick does know Eve feels she has no regrets. She does does not know she told him.
Trubel has no idea that Sean risked his life to save them either. basically all the conflict before zerstorer is still there.
RE: S6E13 - The End - irukandji - 04-01-2017
(04-01-2017, 07:43 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: He wasn't going back in time, as that would only take them back to the original moment with Zerstörer coming through the mirror. Nick wished only to revive his friends (without the ring he took off Adalind's finger and Eve, with the hexenbiest she missed added for good measure) and the staff did that without undoing Zerstörer's death. The staff is self-conscious, at the most it's in tune with the user's wishes/desires and executes them even without Nick voicing them specifically.
Then all of them would remember fighting and dying. Instead they all act as though nothing happened like they were transported back in time. And if that's the case, then Adalind should still be wearing the ring.
RE: S6E13 - The End - rpmaluki - 04-01-2017
Those conflicts could be resolved, perhaps not as quickly as before since they aren't facing imminent death but Sean is still the same Sean that was at the cabin. He and Meisner made up, sort of and if Trubel is still troubles but Renard's presence, he can simply tell her the same thing as before and Nick cab help ease the tension but showing solidarity with Renard because he knows Sean's being genuine and that could help Trubel to move on from her anger against Renard, not by much but enough not to swing her machete incapable threatening manner, lol.
Speaking of Trubel, I wish she'd seen Marie and Kelly, her relatives fighting side by side as a family and as Grimms to take down the biggest their foe ever!
RE: S6E13 - The End - syscrash - 04-01-2017
They had to go back in time to undo all the damage. Don't forget they destroyed a police station. You can not just fix it. You would have to erase it ever happened.
The question that should be asked is why is it Diana remembers but Trubel does not. My only answer is Trubel died. Even though she was revived. The stick wiped out her death.
I would imagine to Nick and Diana one minute they are there at the portal with Nick and the stick going through. The next moment they are in monroe's living room and Nick comes flying through.
It is the way Diana was so nonchalant about it while Nick was all emotional that everyone was alive. But then we have never seen anyone's death effect Diana.
RE: S6E13 - The End - irukandji - 04-01-2017
The other alternative is that the young Kelly is relaying the events we see and, like the Bible, not everything matches up the way it should.
RE: S6E13 - The End - rpmaluki - 04-01-2017
(04-01-2017, 07:47 AM)irukandji Wrote:Not necessarily. To have everyone remember is opening a big can of worms the writers purposefully avoided because it means everyone that died, especially the cops at Nick's precinct remember and there's no way to avoid the chaos of such a reveal to a largely kehrseite police force, who'd ask a lot of questions of Nick, potentially exposing the existence of wesen to a generation that's not prepared and without means to deal with the mental anguish they'd suffer in the same manner that Hank and Wu experienced. It goes back to my earlier statement that Nick is undoing the deaths, not reversing time so everyone can remember reliving their lives. Diana can remember for the same reasons she's known things and done extraordinary things beyond her superiors, she's special that way.(04-01-2017, 07:43 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: He wasn't going back in time, as that would only take them back to the original moment with Zerstörer coming through the mirror. Nick wished only to revive his friends (without the ring he took off Adalind's finger and Eve, with the hexenbiest she missed added for good measure) and the staff did that without undoing Zerstörer's death. The staff is self-conscious, at the most it's in tune with the user's wishes/desires and executes them even without Nick voicing them specifically.
Then all of them would remember fighting and dying. Instead they all act as though nothing happened like they were transported back in time. And if that's the case, then Adalind should still be wearing the ring.
RE: S6E13 - The End - irukandji - 04-01-2017
(04-01-2017, 07:58 AM)rpmaluki Wrote:(04-01-2017, 07:47 AM)irukandji Wrote:Not necessarily. To have everyone remember is opening a big can of worms the writers purposefully avoided because it means everyone that died, especially the cops at Nick's precinct remember and there's no way to avoid the chaos of such a reveal to a largely kehrseite police force, who'd ask a lot of questions of Nick, potentially exposing the existence of wesen to a generation that's not prepared and without means to deal with the mental anguish they'd suffer in the same manner that Hank and Wu experienced. It goes back to my earlier statement that Nick is undoing the deaths, not reversing time so everyone can remember reliving their lives. Diana can remember for the same reasons she's known things and done extraordinary things beyond her superiors, she's special that way.(04-01-2017, 07:43 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: He wasn't going back in time, as that would only take them back to the original moment with Zerstörer coming through the mirror. Nick wished only to revive his friends (without the ring he took off Adalind's finger and Eve, with the hexenbiest she missed added for good measure) and the staff did that without undoing Zerstörer's death. The staff is self-conscious, at the most it's in tune with the user's wishes/desires and executes them even without Nick voicing them specifically.
Then all of them would remember fighting and dying. Instead they all act as though nothing happened like they were transported back in time. And if that's the case, then Adalind should still be wearing the ring.
So you're saying the police at the police department are still all dead, right? Not only that, but all of the others Z killed are still dead as well?
RE: S6E13 - The End - Kathryn Wooten - 04-01-2017
(04-01-2017, 07:47 AM)irukandji Wrote:I believe the stick took Nick at the exact time..he and Eve was helped through the mirror.....so no one except Nick and Diana knows what happened to his friends ...all they know at the moment they were happey to see their friends come through the mirror..so this moment happen just as Renard, Adalind and Monroe pulled Diana from the mirror...only that they still believe Z was coming out after him...and Diana tells them Z was dead and notice that Eve is still a hexenbiest(04-01-2017, 07:43 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: He wasn't going back in time, as that would only take them back to the original moment with Zerstörer coming through the mirror. Nick wished only to revive his friends (without the ring he took off Adalind's finger and Eve, with the hexenbiest she missed added for good measure) and the staff did that without undoing Zerstörer's death. The staff is self-conscious, at the most it's in tune with the user's wishes/desires and executes them even without Nick voicing them specifically.
Then all of them would remember fighting and dying. Instead they all act as though nothing happened like they were transported back in time. And if that's the case, then Adalind should still be wearing the ring.