(05-17-2016, 07:21 AM)irukandji Wrote: I'm probably one of the few that doesn't find David Giuntoli charismatic. Not trying to be mean here, but I have a really hard time believing Juliette or Adalind could ever fall in love with him. He looks like a very nice guy in real life, but on the screen there's just not a lot there, even after five years.

Quote:The only way I could see Nick being retooled is through a major storyline, like a revolution. After that, I'm with you. Punishment is a must for Nick. In my opinion, he needs to atone more than any other character on Grimm. I laughed when I read your example of Warden Norton from the Shawshank Redemption. I actually never considered that kind of redemption for his character.

(05-17-2016, 08:03 AM)Robyn Wrote: out there. For now Adalind might be content with mediocre sex because she views it as lovemaking, an intimate connection, something she hasn't experienced before, but at some point Adalind is going to miss the hot, sweaty explosion she’s not getting.

(05-17-2016, 08:50 AM)irukandji Wrote: I get the feeling they won't end up together. I don't think Nick could forgive Adalind for taking Kelly and screwing around with Sean.

(05-17-2016, 08:27 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Before BC was brought in, Grimm was moving toward an ultimate conflict between Nick and friends and the world domination-seeking royals over the treasure of the seven grimms, with Renard's uncertain loyalties the potential spoiler. Sound familiar?

Whether that would have happened in Portland or in Pseudo Austria is anyone's guess, but not having to make Portland neighborhoods look like Austria would certainly have been less expensive to film.

(05-18-2016, 06:53 AM)Rotkäppchen Wrote: I'm still holding out hope that Sebastian shows up. It was never clear if he was shot dead or just injured when he went out that window after the BC operative entered his room when he was on the phone with Rosalee. Nobody has heard from him since. He could have gone underground and gotten backup. I really hope that they don't leave that hanging wide open - then again, they do like to open doors and forget to close them. But if Monroe dies and Sebastian returns how will that work with Rosalee who may possibly be pregnant. Or if she is sick and she feels that she is going to die anyway or if she just happens to be in the crosshairs and dies - that sets Monroe up as wanting vengeance too. I mean, Rosalee would not be dead if not for their good "friend" Nick - the Grimm. Shifting alliances again. Things are moving around on a chess board. Or after Conrad really comes clean about all that he wants/BC wants beside world domination could that shift and change alliances too? Does it make Wu think well, you know what, maybe I do belong with them now or does it move RoRoe to question where their loyalties lie? Or JuEve for that matter? Meisner is dead I feel confident on that. As Truebel says "we're all that's left to fight BC" not verbatim but I feel like hey it's all of them (ALL) against the what, six or seven of them?

And I keep watching the throw the window scene. I said this after it was first shown too - every one keeps saying Renard throws Nick through a window. I keep watching it and it looks like Renard goes through. But it's so quick and I've slowed it down on the tv and on the clip online. Unless there are two window scenes in his office LOL who knows.

(05-17-2016, 09:42 PM)izzy Wrote: after a few awkward moments Monroe asks Nick if he is in love with her. Nick vacillates on the answer and Monroe just lets it drop. When your buddy's answer to the question are you in love with the local community-chest is " I don't know" your immediate follow-up is to to do everything you can to dissuade the relationship from developing in that direction. It is not to sit in silence. Sitting in silence is what an acquaintance does not your friend. Heck, I almost feel empathy for Nick.

(05-18-2016, 07:23 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:

(05-18-2016, 06:53 AM)Rotkäppchen Wrote: I'm still holding out hope that Sebastian shows up. It was never clear if he was shot dead or just injured when he went out that window after the BC operative entered his room when he was on the phone with Rosalee. Nobody has heard from him since. He could have gone underground and gotten backup. I really hope that they don't leave that hanging wide open - then again, they do like to open doors and forget to close them. But if Monroe dies and Sebastian returns how will that work with Rosalee who may possibly be pregnant. Or if she is sick and she feels that she is going to die anyway or if she just happens to be in the crosshairs and dies - that sets Monroe up as wanting vengeance too. I mean, Rosalee would not be dead if not for their good "friend" Nick - the Grimm. Shifting alliances again. Things are moving around on a chess board. Or after Conrad really comes clean about all that he wants/BC wants beside world domination could that shift and change alliances too? Does it make Wu think well, you know what, maybe I do belong with them now or does it move RoRoe to question where their loyalties lie? Or JuEve for that matter? Meisner is dead I feel confident on that. As Truebel says "we're all that's left to fight BC" not verbatim but I feel like hey it's all of them (ALL) against the what, six or seven of them?

And I keep watching the throw the window scene. I said this after it was first shown too - every one keeps saying Renard throws Nick through a window. I keep watching it and it looks like Renard goes through. But it's so quick and I've slowed it down on the tv and on the clip online. Unless there are two window scenes in his office LOL who knows.

I think you mean Alexander from the wesen council I've been waiting for him all season. I do think it's Nick threw the window but that doesn't mean that will stop Nick I think the other wesen police will step in when they see Nick getting the upper hand with their guy.

(05-18-2016, 07:25 AM)Robyn Wrote: The minute Adalind used the L word Nick should have taken the conversation out of the bedroom. This was not the time for all the blood to drain from the upper head. It would have been different if the conversation had been - you want it - I want it - what's the big deal.

Quote:Nick chose to stick his candle in the hot wax. Don't come crying when it burns.

Quote:I don't disagree with Adalind's past, but that her future is permanently fixed by her past indicates no one can change and move forward. If that's the case, considering that Monroe once embraced his predator nature, hunted and killed, should he ever be trusted not to revert to his primal nature and become dangerous again? Or is the issue that Adalind's past liaisons include Nick and Hank?

Quote: If the issue is casual sex with multiple partners then Nick needs to find an unopened box of wax to stick his wick in and let Adalind get on with her life.

(05-18-2016, 12:37 PM)izzy Wrote: [quote='Robyn' pid='29730' dateline='1463581533']
Nick chose to stick his candle in the hot wax. Don't come crying when it burns.

(05-18-2016, 07:25 AM)Robyn Wrote: If the issue is casual sex with multiple partners then Nick needs to find an unopened box of wax to stick his wick in and let Adalind get on with her life

It has far less to do with the number and far more to do with the depth of the relationship and the relationship Nick, himself has with the men involved. It really boils down to, you had very casual sex with my boss and had his baby, and you did my partner in a very callous fashion...that has cuckold, submissive, latent homosexual or something akin written all over it. Once again the issue is not the number, it is the depth of the relationships and with whom in relation to Nick.

Thank you for the engaging dialogue.

Cheers...

Quote:izzy wrote:
But really the issues, from a male perspective is Adalind was with Hank (his partner) and Renard, his superior, not to mention his enemy in the from of the Royals. But the two former are a big issue. It signals something about you as a male and it is nothing other males are going to respect. Moreover, it is likely everyone at the station knows about Hank and Adalind, and possibly Renard and Adalind.