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RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - FaceInTheCrowd - 03-25-2017
Adalind didn't want to "not access" her hexenbiest, she wanted to not be a hexenbiest, because she believed that being a hexenbiest would change the way she felt and thought. But that was Adalind's opinion. When Renard's mother came to visit for a few episodes we saw that being a hexenbiest didn't necessarily condemn one to being a shallow, short-tempered, vengeful bitch. And we saw that again when Adalind's hexenbiest did return and she didn't revert to her old way of thinking again.
The hexenbiest that made Adalind the person she used to be was not her own inner hexenbiest. It was Catherine Schade.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - irukandji - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 10:23 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Adalind didn't want to "not access" her hexenbiest, she wanted to not be a hexenbiest, because she believed that being a hexenbiest would change the way she felt and thought. But that was Adalind's opinion. When Renard's mother came to visit for a few episodes we saw that being a hexenbiest didn't necessarily condemn one to being a shallow, short-tempered, vengeful bitch. And we saw that again when Adalind's hexenbiest did return and she didn't revert to her old way of thinking again.
The hexenbiest that made Adalind the person she used to be was not her own inner hexenbiest. It was Catherine Schade.
But what does that have to do with what we were debating?
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - FaceInTheCrowd - 03-25-2017
The question of whether Nick or Adalind were engaging in some kind of unethical or abusive behavior by using her hexenbiest powers, or whether using those powers in some way caused her to revert to her old persona.
Since we're coming up on the last episode and Adalind hasn't turned into her mother's daughter again, the answer is clearly no.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - irukandji - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 10:41 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: The question of whether Nick or Adalind were engaging in some kind of unethical or abusive behavior by using her hexenbiest powers, or whether using those powers in some way caused her to revert to her old persona.
Since we're coming up on the last episode and Adalind hasn't turned into her mother's daughter again, the answer is clearly no.
That wasn't what we were debating.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - FaceInTheCrowd - 03-25-2017
Then what was all that back and forth about not "accessing hexenbiest spirit" about?
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - irukandji - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 11:02 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Then what was all that back and forth about not "accessing hexenbiest spirit" about?
About Adalind compromising her principles. There was no talk about abuse or unethical behavior. I'm not sure how you got that out of the discussion.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - FaceInTheCrowd - 03-25-2017
Engaging in unethical behavior is compromising principles. And pushing someone you're in a relationship with to do that is abuse of the relationship.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - irukandji - 03-25-2017
(03-25-2017, 11:12 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Engaging in unethical behavior is compromising principles. And pushing someone you're in a relationship with to do that is abuse of the relationship.
Compromising principles doesn't always mean unethical behavior. But that's a moot point because the debate was not about unethical behavior.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - rpmaluki - 03-25-2017
As far as I can tell Adalind hasn't been forced to do anything. She expressed feelings about not wanting the hexenbiest back because she was afraid it would warp her thinking as she understood it to have done before. We see that that hasn't happened at all. Nick asked her to do a spell, to save him from Renard she did. For Nick, we've heard her say she'd go so far as to kill Renard. Adalind is not compromising her principles, she using what is available to her to protect her family as we've seen with Diana as well. She's not lamenting the times she biests out as some doomsday clock to turning evil, because it isn't. She's limiting using her powers unless absolutely necessary so they don't become a crutch, perhaps that's what made her so horrible before.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - FaceInTheCrowd - 03-25-2017
The only way they are not the same thing is if you have no ethics and no principles.