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RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - syscrash - 03-15-2017
When Adalind put Juliette in the comma with the cat scratch. Even Rosale said she would die unless they did something. Sure Sean brought her out of the comma. But it took Adalind mother to do it. A little far fetched to think Adalind would have anticipated her mother would have helped. So other then Juliette slipping into a comma and dying what other out come could Adalind have expected.
In the case of Hank the deal was to save Hank all Nick had to do was give her the key. That would mean Adalind knew how to reverse what she did. But then it could have been a hostage situation where even though the ransom is paid they shot the hostage. But at the point Adalind walked away when Nick did not have the key. It became attempted murder because she was willing to let Hank die.
In the case of giving Nick his powers back. They showed the dangers of Nick not being a Grimm. Like Elizabeth said doing noting would be dangerous to Nick. Shaw would not have been the only one that would have come after Nick once they realized he was no longer a Grimm. IMO that is what Elizabeth was talking about. Once a Grimm he developed enemies and without being a Grimm he would be a target.
I do not see any of Adalind action where the intent was to kill Nick. She had plenty of actions to cause him emotional pain. The cat scratch was a big one. The only intent to kill I see was Mari, Juliette, and Hank. Wu would have died but that was collateral damage. Adalind even said don't give the cookies to anyone else.
Juliette had the least amount of involvement but paid the biggest price. Rosale and Monroe did not suffer a single consequence. Nick even ended up with a son and a family. Nothing happened to Sean. Has anyone else noticed Adalind is the only one that has not had an issue with Juliette involved with Kelly dying. She told Nick she was sorry his mom died. But she did not blame Juliette. Could the writers really have felt it would have been to hypocritical for Adalind to blame the one who got revenge against the women that took her daughter. Could that be the underlying reason why she does not hate Eve. Up to the ending of season 5 Adalind hated Juliette. After Kelly died she only showed fear. Thank about it when Eve first showed up Adalind showed no hate for who she thought was Juliette. She only showed fear.
Quote:Adalind was already pregnant before Elizabeth ever attempted the spell. If you're suggesting Adalind tampered with her own spell to get pregnant, that would not be possible either. She seemed extremely surprised to find out she was pregnant and disgusted that the baby was Nick's. She was so disgusted at the thought she thought about trying to make Viktor the father.We have seen Juliette and Adalind have this physical connection. If we look at the time when Adalind sleep with Nick and when Henretta told her she was pregnant. It seems a long time for Adalind to already suspect she might be pregnant. If you consider the time from where Julietee sleep with Nick it seems more reasonable for Adalind not to know.
Because Juliette was Adalind at the time she sleep with Nick. It is Adalind that got pregnant. Instead of conception happening when Adalind as Juliette sleep with Nick. Using that theory it could be Elizabeth fault that Adalind had Kelly.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - Juliette - 03-15-2017
(03-15-2017, 05:52 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Adalind was already pregnant before Elizabeth ever attempted the spell. If you're suggesting Adalind tampered with her own spell to get pregnant, that would not be possible either. She seemed extremely surprised to find out she was pregnant and disgusted that the baby was Nick's. She was so disgusted at the thought she thought about trying to make Viktor the father.We have seen Juliette and Adalind have this physical connection. If we look at the time when Adalind sleep with Nick and when Henretta told her she was pregnant. It seems a long time for Adalind to already suspect she might be pregnant. If you consider the time from where Julietee sleep with Nick it seems more reasonable for Adalind not to know.
Because Juliette was Adalind at the time she sleep with Nick. It is Adalind that got pregnant. Instead of conception happening when Adalind as Juliette sleep with Nick. Using that theory it could be Elizabeth fault that Adalind had Kelly.
What would be if baby Kelly would be Juliette's by the DNA. Sounds strange after all but who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - syscrash - 03-15-2017
Quote:What would be if baby Kelly would be Juliette's by the DNA. Sounds strange after all but who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.They say how it ends will be a surprise. Several times they have brought up should Kelly have been Juliette's child. Having Kelly be Juliette but delivered by Adalind. Would completely bond Adalind and Eve together. Add to that this connection they have of being able to feel the others pain.
The question then what does Nick do. Who would he see as Kelly mother. From how this show goes. they would have it Nick considers Kelly as having two mothers.
I just have this feeling their is a twist coming that involves Kelly.
You do remember when Adalind was staying with Sean while working on the potion to become Juliette. There was the scene where they where both naked. Even though they have both made statement that they did not sleep together. What was the naked scene for unless it was misdirection. even in the station Sean was adamant that Kelly was not his. Even Adalind admitted she knows who she sleep with.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - MarylikesGrimm - 03-15-2017
(03-15-2017, 07:00 PM)Juliette Wrote:(03-15-2017, 05:52 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Adalind was already pregnant before Elizabeth ever attempted the spell. If you're suggesting Adalind tampered with her own spell to get pregnant, that would not be possible either. She seemed extremely surprised to find out she was pregnant and disgusted that the baby was Nick's. She was so disgusted at the thought she thought about trying to make Viktor the father.We have seen Juliette and Adalind have this physical connection. If we look at the time when Adalind sleep with Nick and when Henretta told her she was pregnant. It seems a long time for Adalind to already suspect she might be pregnant. If you consider the time from where Julietee sleep with Nick it seems more reasonable for Adalind not to know.
Because Juliette was Adalind at the time she sleep with Nick. It is Adalind that got pregnant. Instead of conception happening when Adalind as Juliette sleep with Nick. Using that theory it could be Elizabeth fault that Adalind had Kelly.
What would be if baby Kelly would be Juliette's by the DNA. Sounds strange after all but who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.
The nine months makes sense from the last day of season 3 till when the first day of season 5. In fact , Claire's conception date based on her baby's birth day of May 2015 was end of July to August 2014. These dates line out well with the shows dates for the show baby.
Human conception takes 7 hours at a minimum while Adalind was Juliette for a short time. Juliette was Adalind for a short time too. Baby Kelly's mom is Adalind and Claire's real baby looks like baby Kelly on the show.
(03-15-2017, 07:18 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:What would be if baby Kelly would be Juliette's by the DNA. Sounds strange after all but who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.They say how it ends will be a surprise. Several times they have brought up should Kelly have been Juliette's child. Having Kelly be Juliette but delivered by Adalind. Would completely bond Adalind and Eve together. Add to that this connection they have of being able to feel the others pain.
The question then what does Nick do. Who would he see as Kelly mother. From how this show goes. they would have it Nick considers Kelly as having two mothers.
I just have this feeling their is a twist coming that involves Kelly.
You do remember when Adalind was staying with Sean while working on the potion to become Juliette. There was the scene where they where both naked. Even though they have both made statement that they did not sleep together. What was the naked scene for unless it was misdirection. even in the station Sean was adamant that Kelly was not his. Even Adalind admitted she knows who she sleep with.
If Ken thought it was possible for Sean to be the father he would have never pushed Adalind a way and removed her body guard.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - Juliette - 03-15-2017
(03-15-2017, 07:26 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: If Ken thought it was possible for Sean to be the father he would have never pushed Adalind a way and removed her body guard.
And again, what if Kenneth didn't know that it's "was" Sean's Baby? Adalind told everyone it was Nicks.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - MarylikesGrimm - 03-15-2017
(03-15-2017, 07:36 PM)Juliette Wrote:
(03-15-2017, 07:26 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: If Ken thought it was possible for Sean to be the father he would have never pushed Adalind a way and removed her body guard.
And again, what if Kenneth didn't know that it's "was" Sean's Baby? Adalind told everyone it was Nicks?
Ken is the one who told Adalind and Juliette that Kelly was Nicks.
Ken, Sean, the King and Adalind all think Sean cannot be the father of Kelly.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - syscrash - 03-15-2017
The seven hours for conception can not be used as a variable. Lets consider the transformation changes the skeletal structure. It would be conceivable to think it also effects the internal organs. Considering the internal organs would have to fit the skeletal structure. Also think about it Eve changed in to Sean and attempted to have sex with Rachel. that means she had to have male sex organs. Which means she would also have to have the internal plumbing. Further proof the internal organs change. Because the internals change any rules of normal conception do not apply.
That leaves the pregnancy falls into the realm of magic. that opens up Kelly could be Juliette as much as it could be Adalind's. The logic being Adalind was Juliette when she was with Nick. Also Juliette was Adalind when she was with Nick.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - MarylikesGrimm - 03-15-2017
(03-15-2017, 07:50 PM)syscrash Wrote: The seven hours for conception can not be used as a variable. Lets consider the transformation changes the skeletal structure. It would be conceivable to think it also effects the internal organs. Considering the internal organs would have to fit the skeletal structure. Also think about it Eve changed in to Sean and attempted to have sex with Rachel. that means she had to have male sex organs. Which means she would also have to have the internal plumbing. Further proof the internal organs change. Because the internals change any rules of normal conception do not apply.
That leaves the pregnancy falls into the realm of magic. that opens up Kelly could be Juliette as much as it could be Adalind's. The logic being Adalind was Juliette when she was with Nick. Also Juliette was Adalind when she was with Nick.
That does not make any sense since Juliette was Adalind for a very short time. The seven hours for conception is not a variable it is the absolute minimum time it take the sperm to travel.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - Juliette - 03-15-2017
Why doesn't make it sense or don't you want to accept the possibility of it? But who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.
RE: Adalind vs. Juliette/Eve - MarylikesGrimm - 03-15-2017
(03-15-2017, 08:18 PM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote:(03-15-2017, 08:14 PM)Juliette Wrote: Why doesn't make it sense or don't you want to accept the possibility of it? But who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.
If you want that then Sean and Nick could be brothers.
Eve does not see herself as Juliette.
(03-15-2017, 08:14 PM)Juliette Wrote: Why doesn't make it sense or don't you want to accept the possibility of it? But who know its Grimm. And nothing is impossible.
Why not have fairies or the kids ord? This shows is more realistic than Charmed, Angel and or Buffy.