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RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - irukandji - 12-17-2017
(12-17-2017, 08:24 AM)brandon Wrote: What about " prophecy" I see it as a foolishness, without validity.
I did not see any of them see her as a " monster".
Juliette read in the books, that "GRIMM" killed that Wesen and one..but there is no mention of Nick in the books.
If I consider that she was fed up of her relationship with Nick- for Nick and Adalind/Juliette-.
Telling him about certain issues would have made it worse- the kiss of fiel- dragon and Farley/Marie.
I was thinking about something that occurred when Juliette revealed to Nick that she was a hexenbiest. Nick said it was his fault, but he never really acted like it was his fault. He viewed Juliette as the monster, and therefore, it was her fault.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - brandon - 12-17-2017
Juliette acts like a perjudiced person.
Example: if you are a white you are a racist.
If you are black, are you offender.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - rpmaluki - 12-17-2017
The hexenbiest itself is a monster but Nick was regretful of Juliette's change and wanted to undo it, even if that meant working with Adalind. He was trying to hold on to the woman he knew and loved. It's like he saw her trapped inside of something horrible he caused, unfortunately it was one of the ugliest and most dangerous wesen around. He didn't view Juliette herself as a monster. In fact he told her quite a few times he loved her, that he wanted to fix her situation and that he wasn't giving up. He told her he would learn to accept this new version like she did him. He only stopped saying the words after finding his mother's head in a box.
Rosalee is the same but I think she was more fearful of Juliette when things began to escalate. She too "gave up" on Juliette after the incident with Nick pointing a gun at Monroe. It was Juliette's monstrous behavior that made the gang see her as such.
Juliette hated what she'd become (basically told Nick as much) and was getting out of control only after Nick faux pas with the confession and hearing of Adalind's pregnancy and Nick's second faux pas in working with Adalind did she fully embraced everything.
Ultimately the gang felt the Juliette they knew was gone and then in S6 she sort of came back and then she lost her hexenbiest and they all thought she finally had the thing that was taken from her (her human nature) because of Nick and they all, except for her, thought that was a good thing because who, deep down, wants to be made into a raging beast who's not averse to destroying lives after they lived what appears to be an idyllic life with their long-term boyfriend with good friends and a great job?
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - brandon - 12-17-2017
Believe that by attaching a wall to Juliette " Hexenbiest" would have worked?
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - irukandji - 12-17-2017
(12-17-2017, 10:33 AM)brandon Wrote: Juliette acts like a perjudiced person.
Example: if you are a white you are a racist.
If you are black, are you offender.
No she doesn't.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - brandon - 12-17-2017
Juliette's attitude was " that nobody could understand", neither Nick, Monroe and Rosalee.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - irukandji - 12-17-2017
(12-17-2017, 12:58 PM)brandon Wrote: Juliette's attitude was " that nobody could understand", neither Nick, Monroe and Rosalee.
Brandon, the real problem here was the gang's attitude toward Juliette. It started with Nick. Once he found out she was a hexenebiest, he immediately equated that to a monster. Naturally the gang, being part of the collective, went right along with Nick. If the group of people she loves consider her a monster, how does she convince them otherwise? It cannot be done.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - brandon - 12-17-2017
Never see is.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - dicappatore - 12-17-2017
The article did a great job on listing all of what happened to Juliette and how the Nick & Company acted. My problem is with the lists of “What doesn’t help” and “What ultimately helps trauma survivors”. It is obvious to me that this Psychologist did not watch most of the episodes. You cannot see Juliette’s arc in a few episodes. You have to watch all the small bits and pieces in all the episodes from S1 to, at least S4, to see her complete arc that led to her dark transformation. Something, most of us conscientious viewers did.
As for the “What doesn’t help”? Most of what’s on this list were her own doings or no one was able to make or state any of those situations because she walked out and went ballistic in a day or two after interacting only with Nick. Her trauma was kept as a secret by her. If she had divulged her transformation in the beginning. Not when she got the headaches and thought she was pregnant, but when she 1st voge.
She was in the Wesen world. She knew what she was becoming. She kept the secret. She then lets Nick know and walks out. For what the writer lists as the mistakes made, the gang never had a chance to make them. They were made after she attacked and betrayed them, not the other way around. To blame them for their reactions is ludicrous. They never had a chance to make those mistakes.
They were reacting to her attacks, not her condition. They were kept in the dark of her situation. To say that they did not accept her as she became is nuts. How can you reject what you don’t know? By the time they knew, she was gone as the Juliette they knew.
For the “What ultimately helps trauma survivors” is another great list of observations. But again, I don’t think this Psychologist watched the show in its entirety. When did Juliette give the gang a chance to do what she listed in her “What ultimately helps trauma survivors”? Juliette never gave them the time or place for them to react like the list, listed, to her trauma.
RE: A very interesting article that features Juliette's character - irukandji - 12-17-2017
(12-17-2017, 11:17 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: The hexenbiest itself is a monster but Nick was regretful of Juliette's change and wanted to undo it, even if that meant working with Adalind.
That Nick considered hexenbiests as monsters reveals a flaw within him. He should have taken note of that flaw and never tried to treat Juliette.