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RE: Diana - rpmaluki - 04-03-2017

Diana is a deus ex machina, they used her a lot at the very beginning but for a show called Grimm, this wouldn't last as we have seen. Most of her powers were shown when she was killing or doing bad things. The one and only good thing she did that also showed the extent of her abilities was when she changed Nick back into himself after getting stuck as Renard. Since then, she's been nerfed for story purposes. Reading symbols, knowing about the hole in the mirror and sensing Zerstörer, seeing Kelly and Marie and retaining her memory without effort didn't seem extraordinary even if she was the one able to do it.

I think Diana, as a force for good will restrict using her abilities beyond what's necessary. Adalind wants her to use her abilities responsibly so we won't see her doing super extraordinary feats because that will raise too much unnecessary attention.


RE: Diana - FaceInTheCrowd - 04-03-2017

Diana was actually the series' MacGuffin...until suddenly the MacGuffin became the stick and Diana was just a trophy that went along with it.

The deus ex machina was - literally - Mom and Aunt Marie. They sky opened up above Nick's head and suddenly they appeared to pull Nick back from despair and turn the odds to his favor.


RE: Diana - jsgrimm45 - 04-04-2017

Note two things Diana had stopped aging, and the way they set it up maybe a spinoff series. Should they do that then what we seen so far is a setup for that character.


RE: Diana - Robyn - 04-05-2017

(04-03-2017, 05:23 AM)irukandji Wrote: So what was all the hype over this kid? For all of the hoopla about being a force for good or evil, she turned out to be a complete dud. The only thing she was capable of doing was pulling Nick and Eve back from the wind tunnel. Grimm could have easily done without waste of time Diana.
Much like the majority of Portland BC was in Nick’s loft and wiped out in one scene in S5, and the total annihilation of BC’s global threat was summed up with one remark from Trubel in S6? Or the Royals were suddenly out of sight-out of mind? Or Diana had a very strict selective memory of people and events, and was inexplicably very proactive or very passive depending on the what the scene required? Diana was a character in name only. She was nothing more than a plot twist.


RE: Diana - MarylikesGrimm - 04-05-2017

(04-05-2017, 07:15 AM)Robyn Wrote: Diana was a character in name only. She was nothing more than a plot twist.

Early Diana was just a plot twist Diana during season 6 became much more like a normal girl.


RE: Diana - Robyn - 04-05-2017

(04-05-2017, 07:27 AM)MarylikesGrimm Wrote: Early Diana was just a plot twist Diana during season 6 became much more like a normal girl.
Normal and/or abnormal doesn't determine whether a character is a plot twist. For the most part, all the characters were plot twists to some degree. Diana was a plot twist because her behavior and characteristics changed to fit whatever a scene required. She either aggressively attacked or sat passively, depending on what G & K wanted to happen in the current story/scene.

How exactly does Diana have a clear recollection of her parents but doesn't remember the people who kidnapped her? Why exactly was Diana able to defend herself and Adalind while in utero and as an infant, but incapable of later defending herself and Kelly during Kenneth's attack? Plot twist.


RE: Diana - Devegs - 04-05-2017

(04-05-2017, 07:15 AM)Robyn Wrote:
(04-03-2017, 05:23 AM)irukandji Wrote: So what was all the hype over this kid? For all of the hoopla about being a force for good or evil, she turned out to be a complete dud. The only thing she was capable of doing was pulling Nick and Eve back from the wind tunnel. Grimm could have easily done without waste of time Diana.
Much like the majority of Portland BC was in Nick’s loft and wiped out in one scene in S5, and the total annihilation of BC’s global threat was summed up with one remark from Trubel in S6? Or the Royals were suddenly out of sight-out of mind? Or Diana had a very strict selective memory of people and events, and was inexplicably very proactive or very passive depending on the what the scene required? Diana was a character in name only. She was nothing more than a plot twist.

She certainly has a selective memory. Sometime in the season she 'remembered her other mommy Kelly' and even said her stomach hurts when she does. However, at the finale she sees mama Kelly but can only ask where the two grimms went, not where did my other mommy go? If she had made a comment to Nick (after he came back through the mirror the second time) about seeing her other mommy help save them from the Zestorer it would have further helped to solidify her connection to Nick and witnessing the Zestorer battle, methinks.


RE: Diana - MarylikesGrimm - 04-05-2017

(04-05-2017, 07:48 AM)Devegs Wrote: She certainly has a selective memory. Sometime in the season she 'remembered her other mommy Kelly' and even said her stomach hurts when she does. However, at the finale she sees mama Kelly but can only ask where the two grimms went, not where did my other mommy go? If she had made a comment to Nick (after he came back through the mirror the second time) about seeing her other mommy help save them from the Zestorer it would have further helped to solidify her connection to Nick and witnessing the Zestorer battle, methinks.

I wish they did that too.


RE: Diana - New Guy - 04-05-2017

(04-05-2017, 07:15 AM)Robyn Wrote:
(04-03-2017, 05:23 AM)irukandji Wrote: So what was all the hype over this kid? For all of the hoopla about being a force for good or evil, she turned out to be a complete dud. The only thing she was capable of doing was pulling Nick and Eve back from the wind tunnel. Grimm could have easily done without waste of time Diana.
Much like the majority of Portland BC was in Nick’s loft and wiped out in one scene in S5, and the total annihilation of BC’s global threat was summed up with one remark from Trubel in S6? Or the Royals were suddenly out of sight-out of mind? Or Diana had a very strict selective memory of people and events, and was inexplicably very proactive or very passive depending on the what the scene required? Diana was a character in name only. She was nothing more than a plot twist.
Hi Robyn,
Good comments!
Did G&K lose count of BC? Check out the BC "corporate structure":
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Claw
Was Trubel clueless? There are six (counting Renard) Portland BC leaders still living.
Same thing for Royals:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Families
The "notable" list shows four still alive, counting Renard and Diana.
In the rush to time (shark) jump why not have Renard take out Victor and be King (like he wanted) and Princess Diana next in line for the throne? Freddie would have liked that. Big Grin
N G


RE: Diana - MarylikesGrimm - 04-05-2017

(04-05-2017, 09:05 AM)New Guy Wrote: Same thing for Royals:
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Families
The "notable" list shows four still alive, counting Renard and Diana.
In the rush to time (shark) jump why not have Renard take out Victor and be King (like he wanted) and Princess Diana next in line for the throne? Freddie would have liked that. Big Grin
N G
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Families
Mia Gaudot was a member of the Royal family and a relative and a former lover to Sean Renard. Wow! I missed that one. What did I miss?
http://grimm.wikia.com/wiki/Mia_Gaudot