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RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - jsgrimm45 - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 08:29 AM)Purity Wrote:Very possible. Do you think I might have even reached Diana and Adalind and healed their souls for lack of a better word because of the link? It affected Eve that link could have reach Diana and Adalind will be interesting if the writers use that point you brought into the debate to change Adalind and Diana.(12-05-2016, 08:24 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote:(12-05-2016, 07:38 AM)syscrash Wrote:Very good point now that Diana knows something that happens to Eve happens to Adalind make Eve safe from Diana. Think you are the first to catch that good catch.Quote:I checked your post about the cast for season 6. I didn't see Diana or Kelly listed. If the NickAlind ship will sail are the kids left out? I am a bit disappointed since I like the way Diana strikes fear into FrankenEve and was able to get her Daddy to skewer Bonaparte for hurting her Mommy.Diana and Kelly are extras so that would not be listed with the main characters. Even on a more inclusive list of characters Kelly might not be listed because he is not credited. Once the show airs Hanna will be listed. Seeing Eve injuries effect Adalind means Diana will not go after Eve.
Hmm, I am not too certain of that. It is very possible that after being healed by the magic stick, not only did it bring back emotions, but it also cut off away that psychic link between Adalind and Eve.
(12-05-2016, 08:34 AM)syscrash Wrote:This is going to be a good debate thanks to you and @PurityQuote:Hmm, I am not too certain of that. It is very possible that after being healed by the magic stick, not only did it bring back emotions, but it also cut off away that psychic link between Adalind and Eve.The only why that would work is if the stick removed Eve being a hexenbiest. Remember Eve is a hexenbiest because of the bond made during the identity change. the same change that created a physic bond between Nick and Adalind.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - Purity - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 08:38 AM)jsgrimm45 Wrote: Very possible. Do you think I might have even reached Diana and Adalind and healed their souls for lack of a better word because of the link? It affected Eve that link could have reach Diana and Adalind will be interesting if the writers use that point you brought into the debate to change Adalind and Diana.
If you remember...
When Eve was dieing Adalind felt the pain. Then after Nick healed her, Eve went through another process of pain, she went in to shock, fell off the bed and started rolling with excruciating pain. Adalind should have also felt this but she did not.
So it is possible that the link between Adalind and Eve was cut off that only Eve felt the pain.
This now changes everything, so if Eve does attack Adalind, Diana can "empire strikes back at Eve" ...
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - syscrash - 12-05-2016
Quote:If you remember...
When Eve was dieing Adalind felt the pain. Then after Nick healed her, Eve went through another process of pain, she went in to shock, fell off the bed and started rolling with excruciating pain. Adalind should have also felt this but she did not.
So it is possible that the link was between Adalind and Eve was cut off that only Eve felt the pain.
This now changes everything, so if Eve does attack Adalind, Diana can "empire strikes back at Eve" ... Big Grin
We don't know if Adalind felt Eve being healed. They did not show her during the healing process. But more then that you can not draw a cause and effect scenario on what you see. Each event is an action unto itself. Many of the actions if viewed logically they would contradict themselves. You have to remember the events are contrived and only meant to make a single point. Of all the things we have seen events are never shown as being accumulative. Even powers seem to come and go. Hexenbiest are shown to have powers. That they don't use even when it would be advantages. Take Adalind she was able to blow out all the car windows. Yet she could not use it when Sean was kidnapping her. We saw Juliette stop a vase but she could not stop the glass.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - Purity - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 09:12 AM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:If you remember...
When Eve was dieing Adalind felt the pain. Then after Nick healed her, Eve went through another process of pain, she went in to shock, fell off the bed and started rolling with excruciating pain. Adalind should have also felt this but she did not.
So it is possible that the link was between Adalind and Eve was cut off that only Eve felt the pain.
This now changes everything, so if Eve does attack Adalind, Diana can "empire strikes back at Eve" ... Big Grin
We don't know if Adalind felt Eve being healed. They did not show her during the healing process. But more then that you can not draw a cause and effect scenario on what you see. Each event is an action unto itself. Many of the actions if viewed logically they would contradict themselves. You have to remember the events are contrived and only meant to make a single point. Of all the things we have seen events are never shown as being accumulative. Even powers seem to come and go. Hexenbiest are shown to have powers. That they don't use even when it would be advantages. Take Adalind she was able to blow out all the car windows. Yet she could not use it when Sean was kidnapping her. We saw Juliette stop a vase but she could not stop the glass.
We should not also skip the fact that the magic stick not only healed and brought back emotions but also cutoff the link between both women.
Just imagine how powerful that stick is, able to raise Nick from the dead, (remember he was shot once in the back, then healed, then 3 times in the chest, he died, and came back to life), it healed a dieing Hexen.... what then stops the power of this stick to heal that psychic link....nothing to be honest.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - syscrash - 12-05-2016
Quote:I understand.... but we should not also skip the fact that the magic stick not only healed and brought back emotions but also cutoff the link between both women.On a theoretical bases. the wound and feelings are physical and mental. The connection is thru the spirit because it is magical. Just like when NIck and Adalind changed sight that was magic. When Diana contacted Eve and Adalind that was magical. When Adalind felt Eve get stabbed that too would have had to be magic. Being magical what Adalind could have been feeling was the demise of Eve's spirit.
But there is nothing to think the link was cut. The show demonstrating the link twice suggest it will come up again. Even if it doesn't come up does not mean it does not exist. but if they don't use it what does it matter. Just like the Nick and Adalind link does it still exist and what does it matter.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - Purity - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 09:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: On a theoretical bases. the wound and feelings are physical and mental.
The connection is thru the spirit because it is magical.
Just like when NIck and Adalind changed sight that was magic.
Alright, let us look at it this way... The stick has shown to heal mental and physical wounds. physical and mental are 2 different things. So to the last 2 quotes below.
(12-05-2016, 09:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: When Diana contacted Eve and Adalind that was magical.
That was mental and not magical.
(12-05-2016, 09:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: When Adalind felt Eve get stabbed that too would have had to be magic.
That was physical through mental psychic not magical
Also healing Eve memories back is mental.
So knowing the stick is able to heal physical and mental wounds, Eve and Adalinds connection was psychic and that falls under mental.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - jsgrimm45 - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 09:50 AM)Purity Wrote:(12-05-2016, 09:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: On a theoretical bases. the wound and feelings are physical and mental.
The connection is thru the spirit because it is magical.
Just like when NIck and Adalind changed sight that was magic.
Alright, let us look at it this way... The stick has shown to heal mental and physical wounds. physical and mental are 2 different things. So to the last 2 quotes below.
(12-05-2016, 09:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: When Diana contacted Eve and Adalind that was magical.
That was mental and not magical.
(12-05-2016, 09:39 AM)syscrash Wrote: When Adalind felt Eve get stabbed that too would have had to be magic.Question did she heal Eve mentally? We have yet to see what Eve is now. So is she the Juliette we knew in season 1 or still Eve but with a different outlook?
That was physical through mental psychic not magical
Also healing Eve memories back is mental.
So knowing the stick is able to heal physical and mental wounds, Eve and Adalinds connection was psychic and that falls under mental.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - syscrash - 12-05-2016
Quote:When Diana contacted Eve and Adalind that was magical.That was magic. something only that can be done by a hexenbiest. Like moving objects. they say they do it with their minds, but it is a magical powers not a mental power. It is not something you can learn.
That was mental and not magical.
Quote:When Adalind felt Eve get stabbed that too would have had to be magic.
That was physical through mental psychic not magical
that to is magical. The proof you can not mentally connect to someone else.
Even in the show unless you have magic you can not do it.
You only see hexenbiest that have any kind of psychic abilities.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - MarylikesGrimm - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 10:17 AM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:When Diana contacted Eve and Adalind that was magical.That was magic. something only that can be done by a hexenbiest. Like moving objects. they say they do it with their minds, but it is a magical powers not a mental power. It is not something you can learn.
That was mental and not magical.
Quote:When Adalind felt Eve get stabbed that too would have had to be magic.
That was physical through mental psychic not magical
that to is magical. The proof you can not mentally connect to someone else.
Even in the show unless you have magic you can not do it.
You only see hexenbiest that have any kind of psychic abilities.
Nick connects to Adalind when he is not even a GRIMM and he sees and describes the room Adalind is in to Juliette and Wu while is on the floor.
RE: When did Adalind start to fall in love - irukandji - 12-05-2016
(12-05-2016, 12:11 AM)Purity Wrote: My opinion, Eve knows she has alot of personal issues to handle. Now that she knows she is new person reborn in this supernatural world, and the magic stick has complicated things more for her, a relationship with any body is the last thing on her mind. She needs to find out who she really is, where she belongs and make amends.
As for Nick/Adalind, they both have moved on, to further their relationship would be best for them and children. Things are moving at a pace for them which cannot be avioded and do not think they want to avoid it. Instead they are working on it.
But doesn't Adalind have deeper, more personal issues than Juliette?
Earlier in the thread it was stated that she was controlled by a man who she thought loved her. She had issues with her mother which no doubt stemmed from childhood. She didn't know her father, at least not very well. If she would kill for a man she loved, doesn't that reveal some deep mental issues about her that aren't very appealing?
There was also mention that Diana was kidnapped from her. What kind of deep issues would she be holding against Nick over that? Is she conning herself by saying she loves him or is she conning him?