(12-28-2017, 01:34 AM)izzy Wrote: [ -> ]There is an assumption she was ever actually considered redeemed in their eyes. Maybe, just maybe in Nick's eyes, but then again there are may couples where one partner has an affair and the marriage soldiers on, only there will never be what ever once was.
Adalind may have changed for the better, but that is not enough to atone for her past. She is different now or at least gives the appearance of so being, but that is the issue. She is a manipulator and you will never know the real Adalind.
I can see the gang, accepting her, liking her, defending her, but that does not equate to redemption as much as tolerance and a level of understanding and encouragement. The same holds true of Renard and Juliette.
The only characters that are redeemed are Monroe and Rosalee, and that is simply because we never got to witness their previous transgressions, so they started with a clean slate with the viewership. The truth of human nature is, we do not forgive and forget. Heck the majority of the borders of westward expansion of the Untied States had as an impetus the idea that it was easier to gain acceptance in a new land where you were unknown and able to start with a clean slate then attempt to exist in any arena where you opportunity was predicated upon others measure of your redemption.
Says you, there is nothing in the past 2 seasons of the show indicating Adalind was minipulating anyone and somehow Monroe, a guy who has murderd countless people is redeemable but Adalind who has murded just 2 in self defence is not redeemable that’s a bit of a strange logic you have. As for an affair Adalind had countless opportunities to cheat on Nick with Renard but instead rejected him multiple times. Monroe even admitted to hunting the real thing meaning humans to the wesen boys camp in 4x19. He also couldn’t control himself in the pilot and couldn’t go into the cabin in case he went after the child.
As for Adalind being a miniplutor, Adalind has never once during the show Minipulated anyone she cares deeply about she never minipulated Renard once is season 1 beacuse she cared/ loved him and only turned against and minipulated him in later seasons beacuse he threw her away like trash in 1x17 and she no longer cared for him as much. You can think she in minipulating Nick if you wish but unfortunately it doesn’t match what we were shown on the show. 20 years is a pretty long con if you ask me.
The actress playing Rosalee seems to fully suggest Rosalee sees Adalind as redemmed and changed. Below interview with Bree tuner and Claire Coffee.
TVLINE | It seems like Adalind getting her powers back surprises her, even though she knew it was a possibility.
COFFEE | It was always a possibility, and the way the writers bring them back is so instinctive — and then it saves Rosalee’s life, so they have this shared secret together, which is really good, but then it also complicates things for another six episodes because now I have a secret that I’m keeping from Nick. Getting her powers back completely jeopardizes their relationship, and then they’re co-parenting with Kelly, so it’s a much more global situation for her life than it was ever before.
TURNER | Rosalee always has known that it was just a suppressant that they gave Adalind. It wasn’t like they took her powers away forever. So it always has been a little bit of a ticking time bomb. But at this point, Rosalee really cares about Adalind. She’s more than proven herself that she’s a changed woman, and Rosalee is also a reformed person so she has more tolerance and compassion when it comes to people being able to have second chances.
According to the actress she has more than proved herself a changed women to Rosalee.
As for Juliette/Eve she is also clearly redeemed in the eyes of the scobbies and Nick by the shows end they abd like with Adalind they have never forgotten what she’s done in the past but they have forgiven her as they did Adalind. Juliette/Eve also just like Adalind has proven herself loyal to the gang and saved thier lives on multiple occasions.
Renard is infact the only main character I think hasn’t redeemed himself fully by the shows end and his actions in my opinion on the show are even worse than Juliette’s or Adalinds.
http://tvline.com/2016/03/11/grimm-seaso...t-rosalee/
I remembered seeing this interview a while back and just thought it was interesting.
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