(12-31-2018, 02:51 AM)syscrash Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Syscrash just more useless straw man arguments from you about the all powerful Juliette. Juliette was warned of dangers of using her powers in public, Henrietta repeatedly warned her of the dangers with statements like they used to burn witches at the stake so clearly her using her powers in the station full of cops would have been a huge risk for Juliette. Also do you think if Juliette tried using powers on Adalind she would just set there and took it no she would be attacking Juliette back in self defence and it would eventually lead to all hell breaking loose in the station, your point she could just kill Adalind without anyone knowing is utter nonsense.
Henriette's warning was to remind Juliette to not leave evidence. Even in the rules their are situations where exposure is accepted, the preacher is an example. We had already seen Juliette and Adalind go after each other. Adalind left the house in fear. Later we see two examples that Juliette has learned even more control. If Juliette was able to intimidate Adalind at the house. Why would you think at the station Adalind would be able to fight back against Juliettes magic. Even during the fight ADalind throw the vase and Juliette stopped it without looking. That alone shows Juliette can counter act Adalind magic.
Your whole argument is based on the police seeing Adalind in pain and could or would connect it to Juliette. Remember Adalind woged to throw the vase, Juliette did not to stop it. Most time Juliette used magic she was not woged where Adalind was. So under what theory would they be able to connect Juliette to what was happening to Adalind. You only see it as people ln a police station with out any consideration that they are supernatural.
What theory would explain your all hell breaking out, or Adalind attacking back. We have never seen any of that. We have seen several cases of Juliette using magic to torment and no all hell breaking out. If all hell was going to break out don't you think the spice shop would have been a time when that would happen. Yet Juliette maintained control of everyone in the shop and without woging. Other then her moving her hand she gave no indication she was doing anything. Even the hand movements where minor, plus we have seen her move things by only looking at them.
You could argue that Adalind would not be able to torment someone in a crowed room, because we have never seen her covertly use magic like we have with Juliette and then Eve. It is funny that so many have this idea of choices where made to keep Juliette from dong something. Yet there are several examples of Juliette not being able to be stopped. In the spice shop they pulled their guns to stop her, and she took them. There is another thing people ignore. The warehouse was full of wesen, inside and out. In less then a minute they where all dead. True we do not know if Juliette had the training to do that, but it does show the power of her abilities. When considering how a confrontation would go consider, only Diana has been shown to have that kind of power. That is also why it is hard to see the rational of her trying to kill someone as opposed to trying to intimidate someone. Especially when you consider her affect after each event. With the statue that was not disappointment that she missed. It was more concerned she was seeking revenge. In the spice shop there was no indication that she missed, in fact she even said that was close. This third part intervention, is discounted by each time Juliette waited till the third party was positioned to intervene. Even on her first kill to save Monroe, she showed no apprehension that she did. There was a surprise that she could but no sign of regret. The same with Rosale no regret. Nick, Hank, and Woo the three humans are the only ones that showed signs of regret.
People blame Juliette for betraying Kelly. Why is it no one ever talks about Adalind not telling Nick about the danger Kelly was in. Adalind knew the plan was to use Juliette to get Kelly to Portland. She also know Kenneth turning on her was to get Juliette to work with him. Does anyone give any of the blame to Adalind for not giving Nick a heads up.
What are you talking about Juliette not being able to be stopped Trubel stopped her with a single shot from a crossbow. Miesner was able to restrain Juliette down and slap her and brainwash her into joining Hw .
Bonaparte took her out with ease she’s not as invincible as you make her out to be.
Also Juliette would have killed Adalind if not for the quick thinking Verat guard you can make up all the bull you want but onscreen she’d be dead if not for a third party intervening just like Monroe and Nick would be dead if someone hadn’t intervened.
The only reason Juliette ran away after trying to drop the statue on Adalind is because she came to her senses and realised she didn’t want to murder Adalind in cold, but when she dropped the statue she absolutely wanted Adalind dead just like she did after she found out Adalind was pregnant end of story.
Also season 4 Juliette was never once shown to have the ability to take out someone without anyone noticing that was Eve in season 5. She couldn’t even try and take out Adalind with the statue without Adalind noticing Juliette’s relflection in the window right before the statue dropped. Juliette was also very clumsy using her powers in the bar attack the guy she attacked even seemed to see her Woge, she was hardly as stealthy as your making her out to be. Eve took out an entire warehouse but season 4 Juliette was never once shown to have that sort of control, In fact she sat upstairs helplessly listening to Kelly’s death screams down stairs after she sent her into a deadly ambush, if it was just about getting Diana with all the power you claim Juliette has couldn’t she have helped save Kelly and allow the Royals to Diana thus getting her revenge and still allowing Kelly to live after all according to you she’s unstoppable.
Adalind is a pregnant hexenbiest with a young child to protect do you seriously think she wouldn’t try to defend herself if Juliette attacked. Yes we all know she is terrified of Juliette and is no match for her however season 4 Juliette was never shown to be able to take someone out without them noticing at least something was going on and Adalind would definitely try to defend herself like she did in 4x13 even while caught by suprise by Juliette. Also Nick and Renard are also both supernatural do you honestly think they would just let her kill a pregnant woman without trying to sop her, in the process letting everyone know something strange was going on. season 4 Juliette was a hot mess she wasn’t the professional Eve of season 5 stop making out like she was.
Also more BS from you, Adalind had no clue whatsoever Kenneth was planning on using Juliette to lure Kelly to Portland. All Adalind knew is that Kenneth was going to try and get Juliette to find out where the child was located, Adalind even told Kenneth she didn’t believe Juliette would ever betray Nick. When Kenneth bailed Juliette out and asked her to help Juliette said I don’t know where the child is, Kenneth then said I believe you don’t but I believe you could. While this is going on Adalind is in the precinct informing Nick of the pregnancy. Kenneth doesn’t come up with the plan to trick Kelly to coming to town until him and Juliette talk later that night and she tells him about Nick having a way to contact Kelly .
So how you can say Adalind knew anything beyond Kenneth was planning on using Juliette to find the child is just not true.
Stop trying to shift the blame onto Adalind it was Juliette who lured Kelly to town with false information, she helped the Royals secure the house Kelly would be ambushed in, Juliette then directly led Kelly into the house of death over the phone seconds before Kelly was killed, then she sat upstairs and listened to Kelly be brutally murderd she could even hear her desperate screams, yet Juliette didn’t even call out for Kenneth not to kill her and to just take Diana.
Adalind on the other hand actually told Nick how sorry she was Kelly had died and named her son after her, Juliette never actually said she was sorry Kelly was dead not once.
Henrettia never said a single word about Juliette not leaving evidence, she told her she had to control herself as they use to burn witches at the stake, Juliette using her powers in front of an entire police audience that would hardly be her controlling herself would it, no matter what excuse you make up.
Juliette-Are you kidding? Henrietta -You must learn to control yourself! Now don't forget, they used to burn witches at the stake.
So this is what I am now, forever? There's nothing anyone can do to change that, Juliette.
You have to learn to live with it.
No.
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