08-26-2017, 06:46 AM (This post was last modified: 08-26-2017, 06:47 AM by irukandji.)
(03-10-2017, 07:32 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: There's also Eve telling Nick yet again that she's not Juliette anymore.
I was reading through the threads and came across this. Why did Eve have to tell Nick yet again that she's not Juliette anymore? Why wasn't he getting it?
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(03-10-2017, 07:32 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: There's also Eve telling Nick yet again that she's not Juliette anymore.
I was reading through the threads and came across this. Why did Eve have to tell Nick yet again that she's not Juliette anymore? Why wasn't he getting it?
I don't think it was about Nick not getting it, but rather, G & K confirming to viewers that Nick didn't chose Adalind over Juliette, he chose Adalind over Eve, and that Eve, not Juliette, rejected the idea of getting back together with Nick.
My problem is that G & K chose to state those facts instead of gradually expressing them throughout the last two seasons.
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke
Juliette is the person he failed to save and feels guilt over it. Every time Eve gets hurts he sees Juliette (when she landed in hospital and jumped through the portal). It's a reflex. I don't think he fully buys into Eve as a separate person from Juliette. In his mind she is Juliette, no matter what she calls herself, no matter the personality. She's not a completely different person to him.
Honestly, I don't fully buy the show's position on this either. To me, she's Juliette but happens to go by a different name after bad things happened. Before the stick I was willing to accept the whole "different person" separate from the old Juliette because of the mind conditioning that forced Juliette's persona down but the stick undid much of that. I think Eve refuses to accept that she is Juliette because it forces her to deal with everything about herself, the good as well as the bad, her past actions that resulted in people dying, including his mother. Anyone would want to walk away from the person they were when the did terrible things. We do it ourselves but not the extent of the show as seen with Juliette/Eve.
There are at lest two instances I can recall where Eve's hard edged hexnbiest persona showed signs of emotion and Nick reacted by either addressing or referring to her as "Juliette," as if he expected Juliette to awaken like Sleeping Beauty. He definitively had issues there.
Kathryn, this is Season 6, there is no spoiler. The series has ended. There is no Nick/Juliette kiss. If there is one in this episode it’s a flashback. Nick is totally committed to Adalind. Juliette is a far memory of the evil bitch that set up his mother.
She is a half of a Hexenbiest because Nick saved her sorry ass with the “STICK”. The “STICK” representing “GOOD” robbed her of most of her Hexenbiest “EVIL”. Diana is the one that ends up pulling her out of that other plane and eventually get her Hex back.
At the end of this episode Juliette lays down the law about her and Nick. She tells Nick it’s over and there is no more Nick/Juliette. Her, paraphrasing:
Juliette: I don't want to be rescued, Nick. I came here for a reason. A lot of bad things happened to me when all of this started. I didn't understand it. I was scared and angry, and I did a lot of terrible things. Things I can never forgive Juliette for. But I'm not Juliette anymore, Nick. She's gone. There may be a part of me that is like her, but it is not who I am now and it's not who I'm gonna be again. I don't blame you. When we were together, I only knew a part of who you were. You only knew a part of who you were.
[b]Nick:[/b] [solemn music] None of us are who we used to be.
[b]Juliette:[/b] And that's good.
[b]Nick:[/b] You really believe we're all better off?
[b]Juliette:[/b] I have a strength and a purpose that I never had before. I know you're here because you loved me once, and you feel responsible for the bad things that have happened, but you can't change any of it.
And I can't change any of it. And if you could, would you really want to go back to the way things were, just to be happy? Happy doesn't interest me anymore, Nick. It just gets in the way. [exhales] You know, everything that has happened to us, that brought us together right here, right now happened for a reason.
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08-27-2017, 07:09 AM (This post was last modified: 08-27-2017, 07:09 AM by irukandji.)
(08-26-2017, 07:07 AM)Robyn Wrote:
(08-26-2017, 06:46 AM)irukandji Wrote:
(03-10-2017, 07:32 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: There's also Eve telling Nick yet again that she's not Juliette anymore.
I was reading through the threads and came across this. Why did Eve have to tell Nick yet again that she's not Juliette anymore? Why wasn't he getting it?
I don't think it was about Nick not getting it, but rather, G & K confirming to viewers that Nick didn't chose Adalind over Juliette, he chose Adalind over Eve, and that Eve, not Juliette, rejected the idea of getting back together with Nick.
My problem is that G & K chose to state those facts instead of gradually expressing them throughout the last two seasons.
You're saying if Eve transformed back into Juliette, Nick would choose her and end his current relationship with Adalind?
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She did, to an extent when he used the stick on her and then she lost her powers and she was human juliette again and them she died with everybody else and still Nick wanted Adalind back as the woman he loved along with his friends, which included Eve.
(08-27-2017, 07:19 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: She did, to an extent when he used the stick on her and then she lost her powers and she was human juliette again and them she died with everybody else and still Nick wanted Adalind back as the woman he loved along with his friends, which included Eve.
Didn't Nick call her Juliette before he used the stick on her?
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(08-27-2017, 07:19 AM)rpmaluki Wrote: She did, to an extent when he used the stick on her and then she lost her powers and she was human juliette again and them she died with everybody else and still Nick wanted Adalind back as the woman he loved along with his friends, which included Eve.
Didn't Nick call her Juliette before he used the stick on her?