(10-19-2015, 08:37 PM)izzy Wrote: A few years back when I was on the airwaves some enthusiastic fans got the idea that I encoded my commentary in my broadcasts and that what I said overtly also had a covert meaning. I believe they came to that conclusion because what I said was intended to provoke research and analysis, not just to spoon feed our listeners.
My co-host and I were amazed at the depth of analysis some went to, and given a sufficient volume one can find patterns that are simply happenstance correlations. I assure you, I encoded nothing, there were no double meanings.
When you look at it as a whole, there are only so many human dramas and they are repeated over an dover again in various cultures and ages. You can apply that to politics, the human condition, or religion, and certainly literature, plays, books, and movies. Heck Louis L'amour built a lucrative career by repeating a formula.
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There are many versions of the Sleeping Beauty fairy tale. The best known to modern audiences is the Briar Rose version because Disney used it as the basis of the animated Sleeping Beauty. In the Episode called Woman in Black at the end of season one, the opening quote was "It shall not be death, but a sleep of a hundred years, into which the princess shall fall." This is a quote from the Bros. Grimm's story Briar Rose.
In the episode called the Kiss, however there was this quote "If a man of pure heart were to fall in love with her, that would bring her back to life." This quote does not come from the Bros. Grimm's Briar Rose but from another version called the Sleeping Princess in which the purity of the prince's heart determines which prince will awaken her. That was why Renard, although a prince already, had to undergo a purification potion in order to wake Juliette.
TV's Grimm did not do just one version of sleeping beauty. They quoted from two and since Briar Rose and The Sleeping Princess start out the same way the version of Juliette and Adalind's cat worked for both. It was only when it came to the part about the prince that the two stories differ and they took a detour before the happily ever after ending.
And yet there is still another, darker version of this story written by the French folklorist, Charles Perrault called The Sleeping Princess in the Woods. It starts out just like Briar Rose up to the point that the prince wakes Sleeping Beauty with a kiss. But then it continues on. Sleeping Beauty and the Prince have children.
Since Juliette's Briar Rose and Sleeping Princess stories have finished, Adalind has switched places with Juliette. Adalind is now the "dark" version of Sleeping Beauty, where she and the prince have a child. The Prince's mother is an ogre however.
Here's a quote from that version:
"Many a time the queen told her son that he ought to settle down in life. She tried in this way to make him confide in her, but he did not dare to trust her with his secret. Despite the affection which he bore her, he was afraid of his mother, for she came of a race of ogres, and the king had only married her for her wealth.
It was whispered at the court that she had ogrish instincts, and that when little children were near her she had the greatest difficulty in the world to keep herself from pouncing on them.
No wonder the prince was reluctant to say a word."
Renard is the Prince in Sleeping Beauty. His father is King Frederick and his mother is Elizabeth Lascellmas. He has told neither of his parents about Diana. In fact Renard arranged an elaborate plot to hide Diana with Nick's mother to keep her away from the royals. Why?
In the picture I posted at the start of this thread, Juliette is sitting at a computer for what reason? To lure Kelly to Portland. Why does she want Kelly to come to Portland? Kenneth is working for King Frederick who wants his granddaughter. Why doesn't the King go to his own son, Sean to give him Diana? Why does Meisner have to save Diana from her grandfather the King? Obviously the prince does not want his parents to get a hold of their granddaughter. He knows them better than anybody. Why is he afraid of them?
In the plane, Diana points to the King's reflection in the window where he is a skull. Is that just because he is about to die or is she showing him she knows his true nature as an ogre?
The rest of Perrault's Sleeping Beauty in the Woods goes on like this:
"...as soon as he was gone the queen mother sent her daughter-in-law and the two children to a country mansion in the forest. "
Juliette now joins the royals. King Frederick tells Juliette she has a "home" with the royals now if she brings Diana to the king. Juliette is taken to the "rental" mansion in the woods away from Portland. Out of Renard's police district he says when Wu asks him what they should do about the bodies. I guess that is the like a country mansion in the forest where Juliette and Kenneth bring Diana to her grandfather.
Sleeping Beauty in the Woods again:
"This she did that she might be able the more easily to gratify her horrible longings. A few days later she went there and in the evening summoned the chief steward.
"For my dinner tomorrow," she told him, "I will eat little Dawn."
"Oh, Madam!" exclaimed the steward.
...The poor man, seeing plainly that it was useless to trifle with an ogress, took his big knife and went up to little Dawn's chamber. She was at that time four years old, and when she came running with a smile to greet him, flinging her arms round his neck and coaxing him to give her some sweets, he burst into tears, and let the knife fall from his hand.
Presently he went down to the yard behind the house, and slaughtered a young lamb. For this he made so delicious a sauce that his mistress declared she had never eaten anything so good."
It is not just any random scene where this spinning wheel shows up. It fits in with a story about Sleeping Beauty that Juliette is participating. As JSGrimm said it's a symbol of fate. The story of Sleeping Beauty in the Wood will play out unless something stops it.
Sleeping Beauty = Adalind (Juliette)
Prince = Sean Renard
their daughter = Diana
the ogre parent of the prince = King Frederick
steward = Kenneth (or Meisner who rescues and hides Diana)
"like a lamb brought to slaughter" = Kelly Burkhart
Here is a link to Perrault's story if you want to read the original online Sleeping Beauty in the Wood
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