Was Juliette a user of men, did she prostitute herself?

[silver]

Well, I think Adalind could have satisfied with another man, too. Juliette/Eve was there first - no Adalind. It still is and remains that Adalind is the runner- up. No matter what you think - it's my opinion.

Lana Lang was there first, no Lois Lane.

Gwen Stacy was there first, no Mary Jane Watson.

You see where I'm going with this? How many people end up with their first loves? Besides, I doubt Nick and Juliette were each other's first loves. Being first is not as important as you're making it out to be. Adalind isn't a runner-up because it's not a competition. Juliette didn't win or lose anything as it relates to Nick.

To me, after the proposal fell through they were just hanging on. They both looked at the ring in the drawer, at different times, but never even discussed it. They seem to hang on to each other more for companionship, convenience than real love

When the Hex came all her reservations of him were amplified. She didn’t loose him, By all of her amplified actions she threw him away and broke him.

Adalind was there with his son and slowly picked up the pieces. Even as bad as a slut Adalind was, before hooking up with Nick. She stayed true to him after the gradual hook up. She stayed true to him even with Bonaparte forced move in with Sean and her daughter doll play pushing her into Sean's arms. When she was confiding with Rosalee, wishing she wasn’t a Hex at all, she wasn’t wishing it for Nick. She just wanted to be good

The fact that she 'lost' Nick isn't reflective of anything but what became unavoidable. She had rage up the yingyang because she became a hexenbiest - iow she lost control of Everything in her life. I mean, if you or I suddenly became a hexenbiest, we'd be shocked to death! Her life became a horrible vortex - she acted out, sure! I think we would, too. If that happened, insanity is bound to follow. That's why as Eve, she was robotic and anal.

I think Adalind not wanting to ever become a hexenbiest again was mainly because of her and Nick's 'new' relationship, with him as a budding father. I don't think thoughts of being good had anything to do with being good in and of itself. She saw she had a chance to live a life with a dedicated father who could be protective of both her and her child.

[rpmaluki]

I view most deleted scenes that were actually filmed as part of the show that they just cut for time. It would be different if they changed the scene by putting a different one in the show to replace it.

There was a scene from GOT season 2, when the show was still good, where Tyrion making Shae into Sansa's handmaiden made a lot more sense. It was easy to tell exactly where that scene would've been placed in the episode and it doesn't contradict anything we've seen. There were a few from OZ that also serve the same purpose. They only add more context to what we've already seen. It's kind of like an extended cut of the show.

A deleted scene of Nick saying he still loves Juliette and made a mistake with Adalind is a poor example. It would completely contradict everything we've seen. A good portion of the final season would have to be rewritten just to support this scene or go in a different direction once they decided to scrap it.

I see it the same way, a deleted scene is usually cut for time, especially one that's included in the extra features of a dvd package. I have seen on a dvd extra scenes that weren't in the original terminator: judgement day theatrical cut, the biggest offender being the LOTR trilogy. Suddenly scenes made sense because you got the full context, rather than a snippet that made the final cut. Deleted scenes are typically complimentary of the actual footage. If the ending contradicts what we originally saw on screen, (1) it would not be filmed as in the case of a script change made during the shooting of a scene or (2) it is filmed but would be labelled as an alternate ending as they did with Will Smith's I am Legend where in the theatrical cut, Will's character survives and the alternate ending, Will's character dies.

Unfortunately, it's not every production that has the luxury to shoot two different sets of scenes when they are pressed for time. Instead they film longer scenes and then chop them up in editing room sometimes to the detriment of the final cut. Look at how awful the theatrical cut of Batman vs Superman was with practically 50% of the movie on the cutting floor and how it was a slightly better movie when they released a longer cut with a lot more of the deleted scenes inserted back into the film.

So far what I've seen of Grimm's deleted scenes compliments the aired scenes of the show. I've seen nothing that contradicts what we saw on screen.

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Well, I think Adalind could have satisfied with another man, too. Juliette/Eve was there first - no Adalind. It still is and remains that Adalind is the runner- up. No matter what you think - it's my opinion.

Lana Lang was there first, no Lois Lane.

Gwen Stacy was there first, no Mary Jane Watson.

You see where I'm going with this? How many people end up with their first loves? Besides, I doubt Nick and Juliette were each other's first loves. Being first is not as important as you're making it out to be. Adalind isn't a runner-up because it's not a competition. Juliette didn't win or lose anything as it relates to Nick.

To me, after the proposal fell through they were just hanging on. They both looked at the ring in the drawer, at different times, but never even discussed it. They seem to hang on to each other more for companionship, convenience than real love

When the Hex came all her reservations of him were amplified. She didn’t loose him, By all of her amplified actions she threw him away and broke him.

Adalind was there with his son and slowly picked up the pieces. Even as bad as a slut Adalind was, before hooking up with Nick. She stayed true to him after the gradual hook up. She stayed true to him even with Bonaparte forced move in with Sean and her daughter doll play pushing her into Sean's arms. When she was confiding with Rosalee, wishing she wasn’t a Hex at all, she wasn’t wishing it for Nick. She just wanted to be good

The fact that she 'lost' Nick isn't reflective of anything but what became unavoidable. She had rage up the yingyang because she became a hexenbiest - iow she lost control of Everything in her life. I mean, if you or I suddenly became a hexenbiest, we'd be shocked to death! Her life became a horrible vortex - she acted out, sure! I think we would, too. If that happened, insanity is bound to follow. That's why as Eve, she was robotic and anal.

I think Adalind not wanting to ever become a hexenbiest again was mainly because of her and Nick's 'new' relationship, with him as a budding father. I don't think thoughts of being good had anything to do with being good in and of itself. She saw she had a chance to live a life with a dedicated father who could be protective of both her and her child.

I believe Adalind said she wanted to be good for her children, or something along those line just before they dug up her mother for the suppressant juice. Nick only came into that equation later into season 5.

[brandon]

Juliette had not right over Nick' s life. Not Nick over Juliette.
Did not have priority to be 2 girlfriend.
As certain people ex want to decide on the lives of their ex couples.
They could- Nick and Juliette- have continued as friends- not benefits-. Like Eve and Nick.

[rpmaluki]

Juliette had not right over Nick' s life. Not Nick over Juliette.
Did not have priority to be 2 girlfriend.
As certain people ex want to decide on the lives of their ex couples.
They could- Nick and Juliette- have continued as friends- not benefits-. Like Eve and Nick.

It would have been better for Nick and Juliette to amicably go their separate ways, staying only friends or a version of it like we see with him and Eve. But both Nick and Juliette held on to that relationship with problems festering under the surface. When hexenbiest Juliette showed up, she could have chosen to walk away from Nick, like she had plenty of chances before the hexenbiest but she held on. She heard about the pregnancy and like a pressure cooker, she blew her top. All the bad stuff that simmered under the surface were amplified to a 1000 and she couldn't see reason. It's tragic.

[brandon]

Juliette think so. Its crazy.

[Hell Rell]

I saw BvS: Dawn of Justice in theaters and I was annoyed after I found out there would be an a director's cut released later on. It was cut for time and so it could avoid an R rating. I saw the original version later on and it was slightly improved because some things made more sense.

I doubt a scene of Nick changing a diaper was cut because it was out of character. I don't see why Nick changing a diaper is so unbelievable. I've changed diapers and I don't have any kids and I thought of myself as less likely to change a diaper than Nick. It was probably cut because they figured they had more interesting things to show than Nick changing a diaper. Rosalee wasn't shown to change any when she was babysitting. Are we supposed to assume she hasn't changed any because it wasn't shown?

On the same network, I watched The Good Place after the season finished. The version I watched happened to be the extended cuts of all the episodes even though I didn't know it at the time. I suspect I would've enjoyed the show a little less if I watched the episodes as they originally aired. I went online and people were talking about what was left out so I definitely experienced the show a little differently than they did. I really wish every show would do this for the fans.

BTW, anyone who wants to give up on NBC should reconsider and watch The Good Place. It's near the top of the list of shows I'm looking forward to next season.

[silver]

I view most deleted scenes that were actually filmed as part of the show that they just cut for time. It would be different if they changed the scene by putting a different one in the show to replace it.

There was a scene from GOT season 2, when the show was still good, where Tyrion making Shae into Sansa's handmaiden made a lot more sense. It was easy to tell exactly where that scene would've been placed in the episode and it doesn't contradict anything we've seen. There were a few from OZ that also serve the same purpose. They only add more context to what we've already seen. It's kind of like an extended cut of the show.

A deleted scene of Nick saying he still loves Juliette and made a mistake with Adalind is a poor example. It would completely contradict everything we've seen. A good portion of the final season would have to be rewritten just to support this scene or go in a different direction once they decided to scrap it.

I see it the same way, a deleted scene is usually cut for time, especially one that's included in the extra features of a dvd package. I have seen on a dvd extra scenes that weren't in the original terminator: judgement day theatrical cut, the biggest offender being the LOTR trilogy. Suddenly scenes made sense because you got the full context, rather than a snippet that made the final cut. Deleted scenes are typically complimentary of the actual footage. If the ending contradicts what we originally saw on screen, (1) it would not be filmed as in the case of a script change made during the shooting of a scene or (2) it is filmed but would be labelled as an alternate ending as they did with Will Smith's I am Legend where in the theatrical cut, Will's character survives and the alternate ending, Will's character dies.

Unfortunately, it's not every production that has the luxury to shoot two different sets of scenes when they are pressed for time. Instead they film longer scenes and then chop them up in editing room sometimes to the detriment of the final cut. Look at how awful the theatrical cut of Batman vs Superman was with practically 50% of the movie on the cutting floor and how it was a slightly better movie when they released a longer cut with a lot more of the deleted scenes inserted back into the film.

So far what I've seen of Grimm's deleted scenes compliments the aired scenes of the show. I've seen nothing that contradicts what we saw on screen.

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Well, I think Adalind could have satisfied with another man, too. Juliette/Eve was there first - no Adalind. It still is and remains that Adalind is the runner- up. No matter what you think - it's my opinion.

Lana Lang was there first, no Lois Lane.

Gwen Stacy was there first, no Mary Jane Watson.

You see where I'm going with this? How many people end up with their first loves? Besides, I doubt Nick and Juliette were each other's first loves. Being first is not as important as you're making it out to be. Adalind isn't a runner-up because it's not a competition. Juliette didn't win or lose anything as it relates to Nick.

To me, after the proposal fell through they were just hanging on. They both looked at the ring in the drawer, at different times, but never even discussed it. They seem to hang on to each other more for companionship, convenience than real love

When the Hex came all her reservations of him were amplified. She didn’t loose him, By all of her amplified actions she threw him away and broke him.

Adalind was there with his son and slowly picked up the pieces. Even as bad as a slut Adalind was, before hooking up with Nick. She stayed true to him after the gradual hook up. She stayed true to him even with Bonaparte forced move in with Sean and her daughter doll play pushing her into Sean's arms. When she was confiding with Rosalee, wishing she wasn’t a Hex at all, she wasn’t wishing it for Nick. She just wanted to be good

The fact that she 'lost' Nick isn't reflective of anything but what became unavoidable. She had rage up the yingyang because she became a hexenbiest - iow she lost control of Everything in her life. I mean, if you or I suddenly became a hexenbiest, we'd be shocked to death! Her life became a horrible vortex - she acted out, sure! I think we would, too. If that happened, insanity is bound to follow. That's why as Eve, she was robotic and anal.

I think Adalind not wanting to ever become a hexenbiest again was mainly because of her and Nick's 'new' relationship, with him as a budding father. I don't think thoughts of being good had anything to do with being good in and of itself. She saw she had a chance to live a life with a dedicated father who could be protective of both her and her child.

I believe Adalind said she wanted to be good for her children, or something along those line just before they dug up her mother for the suppressant juice. Nick only came into that equation later into season 5.

Yes, that probably is the chronological events, BUT who can forget what a pretty woman Adalind is, and flirtatious because she knows he can get anyone she wants, for real. The scene where Nick is talking to her through the bars of her jail cell and she says Nick and her could've had some fun and in response to his quip, she says something like 'you can't work this kind of magic...' So, we know what she says, but the cogs in her brain are always working towards what guy she can ensnare to support her and be on her side of things. Just sayin'.

[rpmaluki]

The Adalind back in S2 isn't really the Adalind at the end of S4/beginning of S5, who was making choice that would keep her son alive. Old Adalind took pleasure in messing with Nick's head like that scene at the jail cell. The Adalind around the time of Kelly's birth was tip toeing around Nick, not being manipulative like the old version. She couldn't afford to play games with him when she was still so dependent on him. She honestly didn't expect him to the her and Kelly in at the beginning of S5. The only time she wanted to ensnare a man to be a father (Viktor) was after she found out she was pregnant, so as to hide that Nick was Kelly's father. With Nick, everything she did was above board. As much as she wanted to be with Nick as the episodes progressed, she also wanted her independence, this was before their kiss and eventual bedding. If staying with Nick was the only thing she concerned herself with she wouldn't have left him for Diana at the end of S5. I know it's not easy to think she could be genuine but S5 and S6 Adalind is practically a different person to S1-S4 Adalind.

Adalind becoming soft and very motherly is about as much "magic" (appealing to a man) as she wielded during S5 but it was never with the intention to snare Nick.

[silver]

The Adalind back in S2 isn't really the Adalind at the end of S4/beginning of S5, who was making choice that would keep her son alive. Old Adalind took pleasure in messing with Nick's head like that scene at the jail cell. The Adalind around the time of Kelly's birth was tip toeing around Nick, not being manipulative like the old version. She couldn't afford to play games with him when she was still so dependent on him. She honestly didn't expect him to the her and Kelly in at the beginning of S5. The only time she wanted to ensnare a man to be a father (Viktor) was after she found out she was pregnant, so as to hide that Nick was Kelly's father. With Nick, everything she did was above board. As much as she wanted to be with Nick as the episodes progressed, she also wanted her independence, this was before their kiss and eventual bedding. If staying with Nick was the only thing she concerned herself with she wouldn't have left him for Diana at the end of S5. I know it's not easy to think she could be genuine but S5 and S6 Adalind is practically a different person to S1-S4 Adalind.

Adalind becoming soft and very motherly is about as much magic as she wielded during S5 and it was never with the intention to snare Nick.

From the very beginning, Adalind was the kind of person to manipulate AND to jump on the next convenient situation or person if it seemed to further her cause - herself. Even she says something to that effect, explaining to Rosalee why she didn't want to ever be a hexenbiest again - very self-centered.

She knew how to play the game whatever it was at the time. (Believe me, I had a friend who was just like this.) She knew - and wanted to be relieved of dealing with being a hexenbiest when she showed up pregnant with Nick's kid. She knew her days of manipulation etc. were coming to a close, so while she may have seemed incredibly virtuous for saying some of the things she did, like not betraying Nick while she was living with Renard and bonapart, it's still part and parcel to her hexenbiest days. She's no dummy. So while I admire her abilities, she doesn't exactly take the cake for virtue.

[rpmaluki]

The Adalind back in S2 isn't really the Adalind at the end of S4/beginning of S5, who was making choice that would keep her son alive. Old Adalind took pleasure in messing with Nick's head like that scene at the jail cell. The Adalind around the time of Kelly's birth was tip toeing around Nick, not being manipulative like the old version. She couldn't afford to play games with him when she was still so dependent on him. She honestly didn't expect him to the her and Kelly in at the beginning of S5. The only time she wanted to ensnare a man to be a father (Viktor) was after she found out she was pregnant, so as to hide that Nick was Kelly's father. With Nick, everything she did was above board. As much as she wanted to be with Nick as the episodes progressed, she also wanted her independence, this was before their kiss and eventual bedding. If staying with Nick was the only thing she concerned herself with she wouldn't have left him for Diana at the end of S5. I know it's not easy to think she could be genuine but S5 and S6 Adalind is practically a different person to S1-S4 Adalind.

Adalind becoming soft and very motherly is about as much magic as she wielded during S5 and it was never with the intention to snare Nick.

From the very beginning, Adalind was the kind of person to manipulate AND to jump on the next convenient situation or person if it seemed to further her cause - herself. Even she says something to that effect, explaining to Rosalee why she didn't want to ever be a hexenbiest again - very self-centered.

She knew how to play the game whatever it was at the time. (Believe me, I had a friend who was just like this.) She knew - and wanted to be relieved of dealing with being a hexenbiest when she showed up pregnant with Nick's kid. She knew her days of manipulation etc. were coming to a close, so while she may have seemed incredibly virtuous for saying some of the things she did, like not betraying Nick while she was living with Renard and bonapart, it's still part and parcel to her hexenbiest days. She's no dummy. So while I admire her abilities, she doesn't exactly take the cake for virtue.

Nor would she ever. All I'm saying is S5/S6 Adalind is not the same Adalind from the previous seasons. When she came to Nick at the station she wasn't coming to him for anything else other than to try and stay alive long enough for her son to be born. She's not a virtuous woman/hexenbiest by any stretch of the imagination. All I'm saying is whatever her feelings for Nick they come from a genuine place of a very flawed character. We've seen her actively play the game for four straight seasons, whatever you may chose to believe of her character even at the end, during S5/S6, Adalind was as genuine as she was capable of being, as written and actually shown on screen compared to S1-S4 Adalind who openly reveled at being manipulative and blatantly acted selfishly as written and actually shown on screen. I'm not claiming her to be this perfect embodiment of a good woman (she isn't), I'm saying Adalind deciding to be good was not her trying to manipulate anyone, least of all Nick.

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Just because Nick fell for Adalind, doesn't mean she set out to trap him into a relationship.