05-09-2017, 06:21 AM
(05-08-2017, 06:45 AM)Devegs Wrote:(05-08-2017, 05:01 AM)Robyn Wrote:(05-07-2017, 03:11 PM)Devegs Wrote: I think there was certain kind of storytelling going on with Grimm. I'll just call it their style. It was actually consistent throughout. They were really into the WOW and getting plots played out quickly. Many people specifically tuned in for this fantastical show for that reason when it started. They had lots of great monster/fairy tale stories. Same with me when I started watching from the first season.Absolutely, the WoW was G & K’s vision. But it was their choice to incorporate story arcs and characters unnecessary for WoW episodes that were poorly executed due to lack of attention. Renard and Adalind worked in the earlier seasons when the characters were used in a specific antagonist role in the Grimm story. Their independent storylines didn’t interfere with the WoW format and weren’t compromised while they remained secondary storylines. The same with Meisner and the Resistance, he worked well as the occasional character in Renard’s or Adalind’s secondary storylines.
Then Adalind is pregnant with Nick’s baby, Nick & Adalind enter into a maybe/maybe not burgeoning relationship - seven episodes aired and the show runners haven’t decided, there’s a Wesen uprising, a Wesen political group attempting a coup, a secret government agency tasked with stopping the uprising/coup - that’s headed by Meisner for no particular reason, Juliette becomes a Hexenbiest then a robotic persona then a hybrid of Juliette/Hexenbiest/Eve, Renard makes a power grab… And it’s only glimpsed at here and there if there’s a little time left over during a WoW episode.
Those are the type of events/storylines that appear in dramas or nighttime soaps. The Royals as part of Grimm’s ongoing back story blended with the WoW format, and often offered up some rather interesting and intense characters, but G & K chose to replace it with the drama/nighttime soap storylines. If WoW was the meat and potatoes of Grimm and succeeded in drawing in and holding viewers; why add these drama/nighttime soap scenarios?
We definitely agree on some points, just as we differ on others. It was their choice to incorporate whatever they wanted to tell their story the way they wanted. Some of us were dissatisfied that they did not delve in deeper once they went that route with some of the drama but some fans were not. Whichever way they went, there would have still been some dissatisfied fans. There always is and this is very normal. Even if they had gone into deeper character developments and fleshing out plots just like I/we wanted, there would still have been disagreement as to what they should have done or how the character development/progression/arcs should have been executed.
For example, take the thread right below your original response to mine. You and MLG agree, yet there was disagreement right away as to what route G&K should have taken.
We agree, yet we disagree on what would have made the show perfect for all. I can only be certain of what would have made the show perfect for me based on my proclivities. The writers went with making the show as perfect as they could make it for themselves based on their vision as the creators. Even, G & K said there was stuff they really wanted to do but just couldn't, and that there were things they had to cut out based on time that they wished they could have put in.
There's definitely no version of the show that would have been perfect for all concerned. I've never had a problem with any particular character arc. My only regrets involve clunky CG work and certain things they never got to explore fully. But overall, I'm happy with it. And with the way they left things, I can fill in a lot of those blanks on my own. The thing that drives me crazy though, is people who assert that G & K were somehow indifferent to their own show. That they didn't care about it or these characters. Just because things didn't go the way they wanted, they like to bash the guys who actually gave us this world we spend so much time discussing. Maybe because I tend to agree with the path G & K took, it sort of feels like their insulting me to. As if liking how things turned out, means you're some sort of automaton, blindly following the party line. I just like to the think I'm not an endlessly quarrelsome grump, who delights in picking every possible nit the show offers. Of course, the world has always been divided into the glass half full and the glass half empty types. And hoping for something different would be like tilting at windmills.