03-01-2014, 06:20 PM
Seems to me the good Captain wants control of this baby and playing the "It's my baby" card seems to be the right play as Adalind is going along with it so far
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03-01-2014, 06:20 PM
Seems to me the good Captain wants control of this baby and playing the "It's my baby" card seems to be the right play as Adalind is going along with it so far
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03-01-2014, 10:30 PM
(03-01-2014, 04:55 PM)Gretel Hanselsister Wrote: Monroe is angry at Nick for some time because he only calls when he needs his help… he’s absolutely right! This friendship is and always was one-sided most of the time. I think that's categorically untrue though, which is why I was so blindsided when Monroe made that complaint. Nick and Juliette are part of his normal social life, they have a perfectly normal friendship outside of Nick and Monroe's 'work' relationship. They talk, they have dinner. Juliette and Rosalie are friends, outside of Nick and Monroe. Nick hangs out with him and Bud and his other Wesen friends. Nick stayed there during the whole Juliette saga, which, yes, is still needing something from Monroe, but only as a friend and not as a Wesen. We might not see it every time since we mostly see them when they're 'on the job', but we do see it sometimes and there's implication that it continues to go on off-screen too. (03-01-2014, 06:13 PM)FräuleinWunderlich Wrote: Renard really it's his baby? I don't think so. If its Eric's, though, then its only 1/4 Hexenbiest...which'd make the whole 'Sith fetus' trick all the more improbable.
03-02-2014, 01:38 AM
(03-01-2014, 10:30 PM)droid327 Wrote:(03-01-2014, 04:55 PM)Gretel Hanselsister Wrote: Monroe is angry at Nick for some time because he only calls when he needs his help… he’s absolutely right! This friendship is and always was one-sided most of the time. Nick is successful as a Grimm, but only because he’s got Monroe. Starting with the pilot, case after case he never would have solved without him. There were problems of Monroe where Nick could help, but those are very few. Nick helped to save Ian Harmon ("Cat and Mouse"), Nick helped to hunt down Dr. Brinkerhoff who was responsible for Larry’s death ("Big Feet"), but Nick is also ultimately responsible for Angelina’s death and Nick exposed Monroe to life threatening situations many times. Nick saved Monroe’s life in "Last Grimm standing", but he also brought him there. Yes, besides of Nick’s Grimm-work they lead a normal friendship. But I think Nick doesn’t value enough how much he owes to Monroe. Nick would be NOTHING without him! Without Nick, Monroe would be just fine. Monroe wouldn’t want it any other way, Nick adds excitement to his life as a clockmaker, but it’s a dangerous game.
03-02-2014, 12:20 PM
I have to say Nick and Monroe's relationship is not as one sided as it seems... Like Gretel said, Monroe wouldn't have it any other way... Nick needs him to help him through Grimm life but Monroe needs Nick in ways that are more complicated. Monroe likes to be a rebel, he likes to have a life of meaning beyond clockmaking, Nick gives him that. Yes it's dangerous, yes Nick may take him for granted but Monroe is getting a lot out of the relationship beyond just the social... Also, Monroe never would have met Bud, Rosalee, or Juliette if he did not know Nick. I think Monroe was somewhat alone when he met Nick, largely because he had left his old life behind him. Nick helped him to come out of his shell and meet some very important people in his life... Even if not directly.
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03-02-2014, 03:31 PM
Eh, you can pretty much say that about everyone in the show, though. Nick gets a lot more from Hank and Juliette than he gives them back. All of them would arguably be "just fine" in their Wesen-free lives without Nick, but Nick has relied on them all at some point or another to save his behind in his very Wesen-ated existence [Such is the lot of a "supporting character", after all]. That doesn't mean you call Nick a bad friend to any of them, or accuse Nick of selfishness the way Monroe implied it.
Just about the only character that owes Nick more than Nick owes them is probably Renard, who's protected Nick from his family and taken a lot of chances/called in a lot of favors for Nick, and all Nick's really done to advance Sean's interests (thus far) is make his brother look impotent by beating all the assassins he sent.
03-02-2014, 03:49 PM
I'm not saying that Nick owes anyone anything. In fact I feel that everyone has gotten something from Nick... Perhaps Nicks biggest mistake, was not letting Hank and Juliette in on things sooner... He could have saved them a lot of pain if he had told Juliette when she started talking about wondering if these things were real at the end of the Big Foot ep and Hank a lot of pain by coming clean sooner after Hank saw Brinkerhoff change.... I know better than most that when you have something about you that's unusual you do better to tell your friends and family sooner, and save them the pain of knowing you're being less then open and honest with them... That's not to say that it's easy to say or hear, especially with Nick but in general, the sooner the better.
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03-02-2014, 06:48 PM
I liked the episode, just like most episodes. Is the parent plot cliche? Yes. But cliche usually means "happy" ending (or is it)? Better it be cliche than a dead dad on our hands. It'd be a hard sell that Monroe and Nick's friendship can go on as usual had Monroe's dad been killed by the whatever they are called monsters.
I always wonder why Nick feels so entitled to Monroe's help. I mean, getting information is one thing, but he asked Monroe to physically helped in many cases. Sure, he has saved Monroe's life many times, but he was also the one who put him there in the first place. Does he just assume that it's the job of a good citizen to help out the cops? :S I was surprised Monroe waited so long to express that Nick only comes around when he needs help. Perhaps the part when the dad said something bad is coming will tie to the royal baby being born plot. Like it or not, MOTW show still needs an overarching theme to tie the season(s) together. It could be worse. That black shirt is not complimenting on Juliette. =.=
03-03-2014, 06:53 AM
I hate to say this, but I think adalind is becoming forgettable. Maybe getting her powers back with strangthen her, but she seems to be only doing what others are telling her now.
03-03-2014, 07:52 AM
For those interested, the weekly picspam is up. As I'm not watching season3 anymore (that dinner-scene has actually killed the rest of sympathy I may have had for the writers and their "struggle" to find the characters), I skipped the review-part. If this isn't allowed please let me know and I'm not posting the links anymore:
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03-03-2014, 09:21 PM
(03-01-2014, 06:20 PM)grimmfreak Wrote: Seems to me the good Captain wants control of this baby and playing the "It's my baby" card seems to be the right play as Adalind is going along with it so far True. That does seem to be a really good card to have in hand. But if we get into a Wesen vs. Wesen custody battle, I may have to bow out on this storyline. "I can feed the caterpillar, I can whisper through the chrysalis, but what hatches follows its own nature and is beyond me."
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