05-05-2018, 11:03 PM
Nick may have felt guilty that it happened to Juliette, yet he strayed away from her when she needed it most.
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05-05-2018, 11:03 PM
Nick may have felt guilty that it happened to Juliette, yet he strayed away from her when she needed it most.
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05-06-2018, 01:18 AM
(This post was last modified: 05-06-2018, 01:42 AM by Henry of green.)
(05-05-2018, 11:03 PM)Scully1987 Wrote: Nick may have felt guilty that it happened to Juliette, yet he strayed away from her when she needed it most. How exactly did he stray away from her it was Juliette that left Nick not the other way round, Nick even begged Juliette to come back and try and make things work and she laughed in his face it’s hard to help someone who refuses to be helped. Nick- Juliette, you're not even giving us a chance to figure this out. Juliette-What do you want to figure out, Nick? How a Grimm and a Hexenbiest are just gonna live happily ever after? Nick- You don't scare me. And I'm not letting go. Juliette- Aren't you scared of what you might do to me? Nick- I could never hurt you, Juliette. Juliette- I wish I could say the same. Juliette-But I just don't know anymore. Juliette- Because deep down, I do blame you for what's happened to me and part of me loves you for it, because I have never felt like this before. Juliette-It's ironic, isn't it? You've been the special one for so long. Juliette - You're connected to a world that most people will never know or understand. And now I know and I understand. Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk...ode=s04e18
05-06-2018, 01:43 AM
From my point of view, it went down the drain here: When she show him the " new her " and he went out of the door and let her all alone. I think that was the decisive point.
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(05-05-2018, 01:25 PM)brandon Wrote: Henriette never kiss to Nick. What she did was a spell to attract him- something in his eyes was-. Henrietta not only kissed him, she definitely had power over him. He would have fallen right into bed with her. I don't think she cast a spell on him, I think she simply had a natural ability to manipulate, which was a natural ability listed in Nick's diaries. As I said, Nick may be a grimm, but he seems to have a weakness. He succumbs to the power of wesen women. That seems, to me like a very good reason for Nick to become obsessed with demoting Juliette back to a normal human.
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What Nick would not like is to be manipulated by someone.
What Juliette thought was that a " GRIMM" and "Hexenbiest" could never be happy, but she never tried. Believe that because was Wesen could do what- the scene of bar- and not apologize. Same as Angelina. Also the behavior of Juliette was hysterical, crazy, denying something to then affirm. Accused everyone. Because they would not believe that she would want to be human?. Juliette never spoke seriously about what his feelings.
05-06-2018, 06:39 AM
(05-06-2018, 06:23 AM)brandon Wrote: What Nick would not like is to be manipulated by someone. Oh, I absolutely agree that Nick hated being manipulated and probably was self-cursing himself for being so susceptible. (05-06-2018, 06:23 AM)brandon Wrote: What Juliette thought was that a " GRIMM" and "Hexenbiest" could never be happy, but she never tried. Believe that because was Wesen could do what- the scene of bar- and not apologize. Same as Angelina. I think Juliette very quicly came to realize that she and Nick could never be happy once she became a hexenbiest. However, she didn't come up with that on her own. Once she revealed herself to Nick and saw his reaction to her hexenbiest, it was then she realized that Nick was never going to be satisfied with her.
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05-06-2018, 06:55 AM
I think everything was misinterpreted- not because of Adalind but themselves-.
Juliette did not give him time added to the fact that would be fed up with Nick" the GRIMM". He did not know could not read mind. Adalind,- "Hexenbiest "yes, understand Nick and be happy with Nick.
05-06-2018, 08:40 AM
I didn’t get the impression Nick was necessarily obsessed with making Juliette human again, but rather, determined to right what he considered a wrong. Juliette wouldn’t have become fully human again had she taken the suppressant. It was only a short-term fix to an assumption that the Hexenbiest was causing her bizarre behavior. Regardless, two seasons later Nick still assumed Juliette had been shortchanged rather than recognizing and respecting that she was now in control of the Hexenbiest and her life choices.
The Nick/Juliette exchange Henry posted could just as easily be interpreted as expressing how confused and overwhelmed Juliette was. She leaped from fearing the repercussions of being a Hexenbiest, to the point of reaching out to acquaintances instead of Nick and trusted friends, to desiring the power and awareness the Hexenbiest provided. To me, Nick & Juliette weren’t a happy couple before she became a Hexenbiest. They came across to me as two people refusing to stop trying to be happy because they refused to accept they didn’t work as a couple once Nick became a Grimm. So the relationship was never more than one life-altering crisis away from completely falling apart. The show catapulting Juliette into a maniacal villain was surprising and disappointing, but not that the relationship lacked the foundation to survive Juliette becoming a Hexenbiest.
"If my devils are to leave me, I am afraid my angels will take flight as well." Rainer Maria Rilke
05-06-2018, 09:48 AM
(05-06-2018, 08:40 AM)Robyn Wrote: I didn’t get the impression Nick was necessarily obsessed with making Juliette human again, but rather, determined to right what he considered a wrong. Juliette wouldn’t have become fully human again had she taken the suppressant. It was only a short-term fix to an assumption that the Hexenbiest was causing her bizarre behavior. Regardless, two seasons later Nick still assumed Juliette had been shortchanged rather than recognizing and respecting that she was now in control of the Hexenbiest and her life choices. Robyn, Excellent post and I totally agree the exchange I posted can easily be interpreted as expressing how confused and overwhelmed Juliette was. In my post I was just making the point that it’s hard to help someone that doesn’t want to be helped, does that mean all the blame for the situation should be put on Juliette, certainly not but to put all the blame on Nick is equally ridiculous, it takes two to ruin a relationship. |
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