(06-15-2018, 04:20 PM)syscrash Wrote:Quote:Juliette wouldn't change that drastically without massive setbacks and Meisner and Co. would need to take steps to keep her in check. I'm not saying it was a non-stop fight but I do think some physical confrontations took place at HW HQ. Meisner wouldn't just take her word that she would change.Why is it that people find Eve so strange. There is nothing about the Eve we meet that does not shout special forces.
Quote:I do think some physical confrontations took place at HW HQ. Meisner wouldn't just take her word that she would change.So is that how you think operatives are trained. Wouldn't it make more sense that Meisner reasoned with her and showed her being a Hexenbiest can give her purpose. That she said that exact thing kind of supports reasoning over abuse.
Eve is strange. She's meant to be strange. The characters themselves were very skeptical of Juliette's transformation. Even Trubel, an HW operative, questioned it. And no, it does not shout Special Forces to me similar to how Nick and Hank don't scream typical detectives following typical police procedure.
I don't expect this show to teach me how operatives are trained. Juliette had just tried to commit suicide by Nick then got angry when he didn't comply and intended to kill him.
I don't think it made more sense that Meisner reasoned with her and that's all it took. It makes more sense that there were a lot more hardships considering how different Juliette became. She acted on impulse and was highly driven by her emotions while Eve was essentially a cyborg. I doubt that one smack and some reasoning by Meisner caused that drastic a change. Juliette said they did what they had to and I think that implied a lot more than reasoning.
(06-15-2018, 05:17 PM)FaceInTheCrowd Wrote: Unless we are to believe that Meisner was some kind of brilliant psychologist (and I don't), Juliette's conversion to Eve would probably have involved some very advanced MKULTRA-type mind control techniques. Like turning Bucky Barnes into the Winter Soldier. Hexenbiest powers would probably have been seriously drug-suppressed until they were satisfied that she was thinking the way they wanted her to.
We don't exactly know what happened but this is probably closer to the truth. Using the Winter Soldier as an example was an excellent analogy.
As for Juliette's powers, if anyone had safeguards in place it would be HW. People may say they can't subdue her because of her powers but they already had her restrained and had ways of training her that didn't risk getting their heads exploded.