(11-25-2018, 06:44 PM)irukandji Wrote:(11-25-2018, 04:21 PM)N_grimm Wrote: What? Eve thought she could kill Z, that turned out to be wrong. Nick went in to save her, he also had no idea what Z was when he entered.Eve made the decision to go into the mirror and combat the big Z. As you well know, she is a soldier, she's fought all kinds of wesen. She used her judgment as a soldier and went through. She was also prepared to die. All Nick did was complicate matters by going in after her. He didn't solve anything, he didn't save Eve, neither of them could defeat Z, and Nick ended up bringing Z back to cause death and destruction.
But the fact of the matter is........Eve made the decision and didn't want to be rescued. Nick was not a part of that, nor was he invited to take part.
Eve went through the mirror even though she was told not to. Z knew that Nick never would have allowed Eve to stay on the other side. That's why he lured her in, by showing up in the mirrors. ”Eve is a solder, she's fought all kinds of “Wesen?” Nick was a GRIMM. The concept of the show was Nick fighting monsters. You can’t seriously believe that Nick (the main characters of the story) should have turned his back on the biggest monsters of them all in the final. The hero-wiki describes Nick as “a superhuman warrior/hunter, of a long bloodline, whose job it is to protect the world from the monsters that secretly live in it”. Your argumentation denies the whole concept of the show! Only he could kill Z. How do I know this? Because he did. But if you don’t believe me - take it away Kelly:
"Because in the final, epic battle with the terrible beast from the Other Place, Nick Burkhardt discovered that the only way to defeat such evil was with the strength of his blood, his Aunt Marie, his mother Kelly, and Trubel, his third cousin on his mother's side the power of our ancestors. And though the people of our world would never know how close they had come to hell on Earth, we knew, because he never turned away from who he was, a Grimm. And for that reason, the world was changed".
Read more: https://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk...ode=s06e13
If Nick had not entered, Z would probably have found another way to trick him. He would probably have gone after the next Hexenbiest, Adalind. Hexenbiest blood was the currency.
(11-25-2018, 06:44 PM)irukandji Wrote:(11-25-2018, 04:21 PM)N_grimm Wrote: And you are accusing others of conveniently overlooking stuff? Why don’t you stop laughing and start paying attention?But that aside, why are you butting in? Do you really believe henry can't handle his own responses?
Henry is doing excellent on his own. I was just irritated by the repetitive laughter.
(11-25-2018, 06:44 PM)irukandji Wrote:(11-25-2018, 04:21 PM)N_grimm Wrote: You can not deny that it's quite strange that you've followed a show where you hate the hero.Well, again, here's something taken out of context. I have never said I hate Nick. Of course, if you disagree, I challenge you to find the post.
Secondly, I usually get this as a question. You just freshened it up by making it a statement. In any case, I always find this kind of thing to be juvenile or to make it clearer, kindergarten in nature. It makes me wonder why someone would be under the impression that they not only have the invitation, but the right to even bring up such imbecilic garbage. Maybe you can enlighten me? Please don't respond by saying something so dumb like, "just curious". No one would believe that and I know you wouldn't expect me to.
Don’t talk to me about garbage. It is a natural question why you are so negative to the main character. It's not an attack on you as a person. Let me explain why I'm of the impression that you dislike Nick: In “all” the comments you make about him, you try to twist his actions to put him in a negative light. Since I have limited time, I will focus on two recent examples:
You try to turn it into something terribly that Nick was going after Eve and stopping the mother of Kelly and Diana (Adalind) from risking her life. You ignore that this is what makes Nick end up in the epic battle between good and evil, where he represents the good side and saves the world.
This is how you described him the other day: “Nick was corrupt before he murdered Kenneth. He was corrupt after he murdered Kenneth”. Nick gave Kenneth a change to fight for his life, even if Kelly never got that change… So the shows hero are "showing a willingness to act dishonestly in return for money or personal gain"?
But if I’m wrong, and you don’t strongly dislike Nick, I’m looking forward to the day you are going to write something nice about him!
As a side note, if it’s only “my option” that Nick is a hero, why does Nick has his own profile on hero.wikia similar to superman and batman and why was David Giuntoli honorary chair of St. Louis Arc's Superheroes for Kids event? Nick is only a fictional person, but his character was written as a superhero-like figure. That’s how the writers wanted him to appear and that’s how most people perceived him. Nobody forces you to think of him that way, but this is the common interpretation.